Gary Lineker

[Eric Mc]

crankedup5 said:

The thing is what is being missed in here, the current Government has been good for me. More please.

I'm all right Jack - the motto of the true selfish Conservative.

[JNW1]

chrispmartha said:

JNW1 said:

So only around a week after agreeing to abide by its editorial guidelines until the BBC's review is complete it seems Gary Lineker has published another political tweet (doesn't mention Boris by name but I think the timing makes it pretty clear who he's referring to!):

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/16381527493...

Again many (including me) will agree with what he said - and defend as a principal his right to speak out - but nevertheless it does rather smack of sticking-up two fingers at the BBC and not complying with the spirit of an agreement he supposedly reached only a matter of days ago. Although I like him as a presenter - and agree with a lot of what he says in his tweets - he's starting to give the impression of someone who thinks he can do as he likes because he's become too big to be sanctioned (and that's not a good look IMO).

What are the details of the agreement that came to?

I think the "detail" was that Gary Lineker had agreed to abide by the BBC's Editorial Guidelines until the review following the last hiatus was complete. Part of those guidelines includes not taking a position on a matter of political controversy and I'd have thought an accusation of lying to Parliament falls into that category? Therefore, it would appear Lineker hasn't abided by the Editorial Guidelines despite having given an assurance only a week or so ago that he would.

[Frik]

Obvious point but there's no reference to politics, or indeed anyone in particular in his tweet.

I guess he's testing the waters. It's an interesting "free speech" point though: It's only political if you make an inference to current events.

[HM-2]

Eric Mc said:

crankedup5 said:

The thing is what is being missed in here, the current Government has been good for me. More please.

I'm all right Jack - the motto of the true selfish Conservative.

I'm sort of lost in what ways the current government could have been empirically "good" for anyone. FY23-24 they're going to cost me nearly three grand extra in income tax alone, and that's literally just paying for the economic damage that the previous flash-in-the-pan lettuce administration somehow managed to cause. And that's without all the other direct and indirect costs caused by their myriad of truly ignorant and idiotic policy positions.

[chrispmartha]

JNW1 said:

chrispmartha said:

JNW1 said:

So only around a week after agreeing to abide by its editorial guidelines until the BBC's review is complete it seems Gary Lineker has published another political tweet (doesn't mention Boris by name but I think the timing makes it pretty clear who he's referring to!):

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/16381527493...

Again many (including me) will agree with what he said - and defend as a principal his right to speak out - but nevertheless it does rather smack of sticking-up two fingers at the BBC and not complying with the spirit of an agreement he supposedly reached only a matter of days ago. Although I like him as a presenter - and agree with a lot of what he says in his tweets - he's starting to give the impression of someone who thinks he can do as he likes because he's become too big to be sanctioned (and that's not a good look IMO).

What are the details of the agreement that came to?

I think the "detail" was that Gary Lineker had agreed to abide by the BBC's Editorial Guidelines until the review following the last hiatus was complete. Part of those guidelines includes not taking a position on a matter of political controversy and I'd have thought an accusation of lying to Parliament falls into that category? Therefore, it would appear Lineker hasn't abided by the Editorial Guidelines despite having given an assurance only a week or so ago that he would.

Where did you read this?

Also what are the editorial guidelines regarding freelance sports presenters?

[sparta6]

Wayne Lineker comes a close 2nd.

[IroningMan]

JNW1 said:

chrispmartha said:

JNW1 said:

So only around a week after agreeing to abide by its editorial guidelines until the BBC's review is complete it seems Gary Lineker has published another political tweet (doesn't mention Boris by name but I think the timing makes it pretty clear who he's referring to!):

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/16381527493...

Again many (including me) will agree with what he said - and defend as a principal his right to speak out - but nevertheless it does rather smack of sticking-up two fingers at the BBC and not complying with the spirit of an agreement he supposedly reached only a matter of days ago. Although I like him as a presenter - and agree with a lot of what he says in his tweets - he's starting to give the impression of someone who thinks he can do as he likes because he's become too big to be sanctioned (and that's not a good look IMO).

What are the details of the agreement that came to?

I think the "detail" was that Gary Lineker had agreed to abide by the BBC's Editorial Guidelines until the review following the last hiatus was complete. Part of those guidelines includes not taking a position on a matter of political controversy and I'd have thought an accusation of lying to Parliament falls into that category? Therefore, it would appear Lineker hasn't abided by the Editorial Guidelines despite having given an assurance only a week or so ago that he would.

Is anyone who tweets or talks about lying automatically assumed to be referring to Johnson, or just Lineker?

Edited by IroningMan on Wednesday 22 March 11:26

[86]

Problem for anyone employing Lineker is that he’s becoming a divisive figure ironically a bit like Johnson

[sugerbear]

chrispmartha said:

JNW1 said:

chrispmartha said:

JNW1 said:

So only around a week after agreeing to abide by its editorial guidelines until the BBC's review is complete it seems Gary Lineker has published another political tweet (doesn't mention Boris by name but I think the timing makes it pretty clear who he's referring to!):

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/16381527493...

Again many (including me) will agree with what he said - and defend as a principal his right to speak out - but nevertheless it does rather smack of sticking-up two fingers at the BBC and not complying with the spirit of an agreement he supposedly reached only a matter of days ago. Although I like him as a presenter - and agree with a lot of what he says in his tweets - he's starting to give the impression of someone who thinks he can do as he likes because he's become too big to be sanctioned (and that's not a good look IMO).

What are the details of the agreement that came to?

I think the "detail" was that Gary Lineker had agreed to abide by the BBC's Editorial Guidelines until the review following the last hiatus was complete. Part of those guidelines includes not taking a position on a matter of political controversy and I'd have thought an accusation of lying to Parliament falls into that category? Therefore, it would appear Lineker hasn't abided by the Editorial Guidelines despite having given an assurance only a week or so ago that he would.

Where did you read this?

Also what are the editorial guidelines regarding freelance sports presenters?

The part is bold making some massive assumptions there which you have zero evidence for, it was a massive climb down from the BBC, not the other way around.

[SWoll]

HM-2 said:

I'm sort of lost in what ways the current government could have been empirically "good" for anyone. FY23-24 they're going to cost me nearly three grand extra in income tax alone, and that's literally just paying for the economic damage that the previous flash-in-the-pan lettuce administration somehow managed to cause. And that's without all the other direct and indirect costs caused by their myriad of truly ignorant and idiotic policy positions.

Do you honestly believe that £3k extra is due to "Trussonomics" rather than Covid policy, that every party supported?

Agree with the rest of you post BTW, I'd love to see how the other poster has come to that conclusion.

[crankedup5]

Eric Mc said:

crankedup5 said:

The thing is what is being missed in here, the current Government has been good for me. More please.

I'm all right Jack - the motto of the true selfish Conservative.

Or be a tt and vote for a political party which runs against ones own political beliefs. Democracy is such faff.

[greygoose]

Frik said:

Obvious point but there's no reference to politics, or indeed anyone in particular in his tweet.

I guess he's testing the waters. It's an interesting "free speech" point though: It's only political if you make an inference to current events.

Indeed, he makes a valid point about anyone who habitually tells fibs.

[Gweeds]

The fact that he could be taking about an ex-PM, and we all know that if he is it's true, should give those who continue to support him pause for thought.

It won't, because they're unhinged, but it should.

[Disastrous]

crankedup5 said:

greygoose said:

Disastrous said:

crankedup5 said:

Better the cretins we know

After how many years of incompetence does that become untrue for you?

(I know the answer is ‘never’ sadly, but always funny to hear people justify voting for a party literally laughing at them)

Nothing will stop him voting Tory no matter how inept they are, it's sad to see.

The thing is what is being missed in here, the current Government has been good for me. More please.

Genuinely intrigued as to how??

(Assuming you don’t run a PPE drop-shopping company)

[Eric Mc]

crankedup5 said:

Eric Mc said:

crankedup5 said:

The thing is what is being missed in here, the current Government has been good for me. More please.

I'm all right Jack - the motto of the true selfish Conservative.

Or be a tt and vote for a political party which runs against ones own political beliefs. Democracy is such faff.

If only we had democracy in the UK.

[E63eeeeee...]

Disastrous said:

crankedup5 said:

greygoose said:

Disastrous said:

crankedup5 said:

Better the cretins we know

After how many years of incompetence does that become untrue for you?

(I know the answer is ‘never’ sadly, but always funny to hear people justify voting for a party literally laughing at them)

Nothing will stop him voting Tory no matter how inept they are, it's sad to see.

The thing is what is being missed in here, the current Government has been good for me. More please.

Genuinely intrigued as to how??

(Assuming you don’t run a PPE drop-shopping company)

I was wondering what Michelle Mone was up to these days. Posting on PH wasn't high on the list...

[Legacywr]

Eric Mc said:

crankedup5 said:

Eric Mc said:

crankedup5 said:

The thing is what is being missed in here, the current Government has been good for me. More please.

I'm all right Jack - the motto of the true selfish Conservative.

Or be a tt and vote for a political party which runs against ones own political beliefs. Democracy is such faff.

If only we had democracy in the UK.

What makes you say we don't?

[Eric Mc]

Lack of choice
Simplistic, unrepresentative and outdated voting system

[Legacywr]

Eric Mc said:

Lack of choice
Simplistic, unrepresentative and outdated voting system

That doesn't mean we don't have democracy? Just not the choices you want.

[E63eeeeee...]

Legacywr said:

Eric Mc said:

crankedup5 said:

Eric Mc said:

crankedup5 said:

The thing is what is being missed in here, the current Government has been good for me. More please.

I'm all right Jack - the motto of the true selfish Conservative.

Or be a tt and vote for a political party which runs against ones own political beliefs. Democracy is such faff.

If only we had democracy in the UK.

What makes you say we don't?

Well, we have "democracy", we just have a fairly undemocratic version of it. It was cutting edge about 200 years ago but most other countries have moved on, leaving us in pots with the likes of Iran and Belarus.

Constitutional role for hereditary royals
Unelected legislators, including hereditary
Bishops in the HoL
FPTP
State broadcaster
No written constitution

And that's just the big ticket stuff.