Who will be the new Labour leader?

[Einion Yrth]

MiniMan64 said:

If they keep a lid on the crazy.

Could be tricky, that appears to be his USP in its entirety.

[Halb]

nelly1 said:

Team Andy Burnham's Captain Darling-like response to the result...

Made a note in the cab on the way here, simply says...'bugger...'

[gothatway]

Quote from David Milliband : "It's all going exactly to plan. Mwahahahaha."

[272BHP]

gothatway said:

Quote from David Milliband : "It's all going exactly to plan. Mwahahahaha."

Agreed. can I bet on David Millband to be Prime Minister in 2020? is there a way to do this?

[KTF]

I think the bookies will take money of pretty much anything if you ask them and they call head office to workout the odds.

[anonymous-user]

tim0409 said:

JC is inviting the public to submit their questions in advance of PMQ's....

http://www.labour.org.uk/page/s/what-would-you-lik...

Excellent !
The trick is to make the questions seem semi plausible:
Along the lines of say:

Dear Prime Minister.
Why can you not allow many more migrants into the country say at least another 100 000 by the end of the year. You can pay for this by putting an emergency tax on the energy companies which will more than pay for it. It will also mean that those who profit pay towards helping this humanitarian crisis

[Garvin]

tim0409 said:

JC is inviting the public to submit their questions in advance of PMQ's....

http://www.labour.org.uk/page/s/what-would-you-lik...

I expect Dave has asked each member of his cabinet to submit a 'nice' question!

I can't quite believe how incredibly ridiculous this is. Can you imagine the bureaucracy necessary to sift through and sort out what could possibly be thousands and thousands of questions and the detrimental effect it could have when you take the time to submit a question and it is rejected/not asked. Just how juvenile is the Labour approach to politics going to become?

[CorbynFTW]

Tom Watson on Marr now

[jmorgan]

Might be on to something here. Not in the right way, but one that gets him popularity in a fickle nation.

[MiniMan64]

jmorgan said:

Might be on to something here. Not in the right way, but one that gets him popularity in a fickle nation.

I have a sneaky feeling that this might go worse for the Tories than they think. They'll play on the everyman/not a normal politician angle until the cows come home and in a country where people hate perfectly preened carbon-copied dark suited politicians I think that it'll play very well.

[Welshbeef]

MiniMan64 said:

I have a sneaky feeling that this might go worse for the Tories than they think. They'll play on the everyman/not a normal politician angle until the cows come home and in a country where people hate perfectly preened carbon-copied dark suited politicians I think that it'll play very well.

Let's see how that goes .

[Andy Zarse]

MiniMan64 said:

I have a sneaky feeling that this might go worse for the Tories than they think. They'll play on the everyman/not a normal politician angle until the cows come home and in a country where people hate perfectly preened carbon-copied dark suited politicians I think that it'll play very well.

Yes, that's why the Green Party have become such a powerful and influential force on British politics. Remind us how many seats they won?

[turbobloke]

Welshbeef said:

MiniMan64 said:

I have a sneaky feeling that this might go worse for the Tories than they think. They'll play on the everyman/not a normal politician angle until the cows come home and in a country where people hate perfectly preened carbon-copied dark suited politicians I think that it'll play very well.

Let's see how that goes .

Nobody has the necessary balls - of crystal - to rule anything out, but when Miliband confirmed at the hustings that he was bringing socialism back, shy Tories were mobilised and the Labour vote shrank to a shrivel.



With Corbyn promising full-fat socialism and two sugars, not forgetting the boundary changes / MP changes ahead, that good humoured comment "let's see how that goes" was nicely restrained.

[RobDickinson]

Halb said:

Indeed. My social feed has quite a bit of support for him. 9 million votes last time, will that go up or down, we wonders precious, yes we wonders....

If the last election proved anything, it's that social media is the absolute worst way to judge overall political opinions...

[anonymous-user]

When is Russell Brand popping round for a cuppa.

[MiniMan64]

Andy Zarse said:

MiniMan64 said:

I have a sneaky feeling that this might go worse for the Tories than they think. They'll play on the everyman/not a normal politician angle until the cows come home and in a country where people hate perfectly preened carbon-copied dark suited politicians I think that it'll play very well.

Yes, that's why the Green Party have become such a powerful and influential force on British politics. Remind us how many seats they won?

Don't get me wrong, I have no interest AT ALL on ushering in Comrade Corbyrn and his socialist utopia.

But I'm just suggesting caution at this point rather than wild gloating. The voting population is an interesting and fickle thing and we live in interesting and ever changing times!

[SPS]

CLOSE THREAD NOW - IT'S DONE!!!!!

[Garvin]

MiniMan64 said:

Andy Zarse said:

MiniMan64 said:

I have a sneaky feeling that this might go worse for the Tories than they think. They'll play on the everyman/not a normal politician angle until the cows come home and in a country where people hate perfectly preened carbon-copied dark suited politicians I think that it'll play very well.

Yes, that's why the Green Party have become such a powerful and influential force on British politics. Remind us how many seats they won?

Don't get me wrong, I have no interest AT ALL on ushering in Comrade Corbyrn and his socialist utopia.

But I'm just suggesting caution at this point rather than wild gloating. The voting population is an interesting and fickle thing and we live in interesting and ever changing times!

You could well be right - time will, as ever, tell! Possible reasons for the Labour vote collapsing at the last GE could be a) Ed being the absolute antithesis of a charismatic leader; and b) the Labour policies offering a lot of close to Tory policies without any real 'leftie' content. Corbyn could negate both these 'flaws'.

As we have seen in the Scottish independence and general elections the SNP have proved extremely popular with the voting public using a good performing leader and promising things they cannot possibly deliver and which could be an absolute disaster for Scotland.

[Halb]

Garvin said:

You could well be right - time will, as ever, tell! Possible reasons for the Labour vote collapsing at the last GE could be a) Ed being the absolute antithesis of a charismatic leader; and b) the Labour policies offering a lot of close to Tory policies without any real 'leftie' content. Corbyn could negate both these 'flaws'.

Milliband's Labour actually increased it's votes in the last election, up to 9,347,304 from 8,606,517. Tories increased from 10,703,654 to 11,334,576. Roughly the same jump, Labour nudges it by 100k.

[edh]

Halb said:

Garvin said:

You could well be right - time will, as ever, tell! Possible reasons for the Labour vote collapsing at the last GE could be a) Ed being the absolute antithesis of a charismatic leader; and b) the Labour policies offering a lot of close to Tory policies without any real 'leftie' content. Corbyn could negate both these 'flaws'.

Milliband's Labour actually increased it's votes in the last election, up to 9,347,304 from 8,606,517. Tories increased from 10,703,654 to 11,334,576. Roughly the same jump, Labour nudges it by 100k.

It's an odd myth..this collapse in labour vote. Without checking the figures, I think we saw a very big collapse in 2005?

Cefinitely a collapse in Scotland & was very damaging, coupled with the SNP FUD that the Tories sold very successfully. Scottish labour was obviously rotten & complacent.