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Caulkhead said:
If they are genuine asylum seekers, they won't have risked travelling through 10 countries to get here. You only do that because you want to be in the UK, not because you fear for your life.
Ok so lets say you are from Angola. You have a job on a cargo ship. You get information that should you return to Angola you'll be killed because your brother had sex with a witch while you were at sea. The ships next port of call is the UK before returning to Angola.Would you like the UK to take a quick look at your situation and see if we'll let you stay. Or just point blank say "no go away"?
Caulkhead said:
If they are genuine asylum seekers, they won't have risked travelling through 10 countries to get here. You only do that because you want to be in the UK, not because you fear for your life.
I'm sure someone has a better grasp of the numbers, but their are plenty of asylum seekers throughout europe.Munter said:
Caulkhead said:
If they are genuine asylum seekers, they won't have risked travelling through 10 countries to get here. You only do that because you want to be in the UK, not because you fear for your life.
Ok so lets say you are from Angola. You have a job on a cargo ship. You get information that should you return to Angola you'll be killed because your brother had sex with a witch while you were at sea. The ships next port of call is the UK before returning to Angola.Would you like the UK to take a quick look at your situation and see if we'll let you stay. Or just point blank say "no go away"?
Munter said:
Caulkhead said:
If they are genuine asylum seekers, they won't have risked travelling through 10 countries to get here. You only do that because you want to be in the UK, not because you fear for your life.
Ok so lets say you are from Angola. You have a job on a cargo ship. You get information that should you return to Angola you'll be killed because your brother had sex with a witch while you were at sea. The ships next port of call is the UK before returning to Angola.Would you like the UK to take a quick look at your situation and see if we'll let you stay. Or just point blank say "no go away"?
boobles said:
Fu** the lot of them! If you are not British, sod off! BNP all the way. 
What's British then? I'm second generation.. is that far back enough? 3rd? 4th?You'd pass me in the street and not look twice as I'm white, yet Mr Singh down the road, whose familiy has probably been here longer than mine, you would tell them to get out of 'your' country.
Sigh.
vonuber said:
boobles said:
Fu** the lot of them! If you are not British, sod off! BNP all the way.
What's British then? I'm second generation.. is that far back enough? 3rd? 4th?You'd pass me in the street and not look twice as I'm white, yet Mr Singh down the road, whose familiy has probably been here longer than mine, you would tell them to get out of 'your' country.
Sigh.
But it's OK - he was only joking.
vonuber said:
boobles said:
Fu** the lot of them! If you are not British, sod off! BNP all the way.
What's British then? I'm second generation.. is that far back enough? 3rd? 4th?You'd pass me in the street and not look twice as I'm white, yet Mr Singh down the road, whose familiy has probably been here longer than mine, you would tell them to get out of 'your' country.
Sigh.
But it's ok, Britain helps every other nation but it's own!
Edited by boobles on Tuesday 12th July 11:46
boobles said:
May I suggest you also read my later post where I say it was banter before you get all "political" on me.
It's not being 'political'. It's representative of a lot of people's views. I get people moaning to me about immigration; I point out that I come from an immigrant family (and yes, ALL of it, all grandparents, are non UK) in the 50's and get a 'yeah, but.. you're like us' i.e. 'white'. It's just disguised racism, pure and simple.
The thong I don't get is that we don't have any countries bordering us that would have people who genuinely need asylum from, (except Scotland, and maybe Wales), so the question I always end up asking is why do they bypass all sorts of countries to get here? If it's the flight they happen to be on as a last gasp or something, fine. But traveling by truck over 20 countries, and getting to the UK, and asking for asylum seems disingenuous.
ChiChoAndy said:
The thong I don't get is that we don't have any countries bordering us that would have people who genuinely need asylum from, (except Scotland, and maybe Wales), so the question I always end up asking is why do they bypass all sorts of countries to get here? If it's the flight they happen to be on as a last gasp or something, fine. But traveling by truck over 20 countries, and getting to the UK, and asking for asylum seems disingenuous.
We hand out free money, free healthcare and free f
king houses.It's that simple.
vonuber said:
boobles said:
May I suggest you also read my later post where I say it was banter before you get all "political" on me.
It's not being 'political'. It's representative of a lot of people's views. I get people moaning to me about immigration; I point out that I come from an immigrant family (and yes, ALL of it, all grandparents, are non UK) in the 50's and get a 'yeah, but.. you're like us' i.e. 'white'. It's just disguised racism, pure and simple.vonuber said:
boobles said:
May I suggest you also read my later post where I say it was banter before you get all "political" on me.
It's not being 'political'. It's representative of a lot of people's views. I get people moaning to me about immigration; I point out that I come from an immigrant family (and yes, ALL of it, all grandparents, are non UK) in the 50's and get a 'yeah, but.. you're like us' i.e. 'white'. It's just disguised racism, pure and simple.
boobles said:
Did I ever say if you are black sod off? No I didn't so stop twisting what I am writing. As a joke said I said "if you are not British sod off" that meaning black white or what ever colour!
Apologies, you are correct - it wasn't intended to be a dig at you but more at this sort of attitude. It really fks me off, as it gets passed off as a joke or whatever when it is not funny. The implicit implication is that British - white, especially when you then mention the BNP.Again, apologies, I do not want to accuse you of something you may or may not be - but this is the internet after all
vonuber said:
boobles said:
Did I ever say if you are black sod off? No I didn't so stop twisting what I am writing. As a joke said I said "if you are not British sod off" that meaning black white or what ever colour!
Apologies, you are correct - it wasn't intended to be a dig at you but more at this sort of attitude. It really fks me off, as it gets passed off as a joke or whatever when it is not funny. The implicit implication is that British - white, especially when you then mention the BNP.Again, apologies, I do not want to accuse you of something you may or may not be - but this is the internet after all
These kind of threads always stir things up.Its common knowledge the UK is the goal for any asylum seeker. They will tell you themselves.
Its not the asylum seekers fault, its it Britains fault. I'd do exactly the same if i lived in a 3rd world country.
A common route from the middle east is through Greece, even through france. Why do they not stop and set up a new life there? Because britain will offer far more to them that any other country.
That would be one european agreement i'd like to see passed - equal asylum offerings.
Its not the asylum seekers fault, its it Britains fault. I'd do exactly the same if i lived in a 3rd world country.
A common route from the middle east is through Greece, even through france. Why do they not stop and set up a new life there? Because britain will offer far more to them that any other country.
That would be one european agreement i'd like to see passed - equal asylum offerings.
Of course, the thing to realise as well is that asylum seekers will generally be non UE citizens (as an EU citizen you have the right to be here - as the spanish have found out to their cost with the brits!) and therefore by their very nature be culturally far different than the European norm.
To be honest, what caused the problem was your apparent support of the BNP - which, apart from being a joke party, is no joke.
As for why the UK is popular, I think that the English language has a lot to do with it. Many people have English as a second or third language so going somewhere where English is spioken makes that place attractive.
Having said that, Italy, France and Germany all have their immigration problems too. Britain is not unique in Europe.
As for why the UK is popular, I think that the English language has a lot to do with it. Many people have English as a second or third language so going somewhere where English is spioken makes that place attractive.
Having said that, Italy, France and Germany all have their immigration problems too. Britain is not unique in Europe.
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