Wrongly accused teacher acquitted.

Wrongly accused teacher acquitted.

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thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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I'm sure that if the inital case had been reported here you would be calling for his balls to be cut off before being shot.

Any male that goes into teaching must either be very brave or very stupid

Frankeh

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12,558 posts

187 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
I'm sure that if the inital case had been reported here you would be calling for his balls to be cut off before being shot.
You really don't know me if you think that.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

235 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
Any male that goes into teaching must either be very brave or very stupid
I would never consider being a teacher for a number of reasons but at the very top of that list is the fact i have balls and a willy. It seems that if you have these it is only a question of when, not if, you have the first allegation made against you.

And they wonder why there are almost no male primary school teachers. FFS what a 6 year old wants when they are crying, for whatever reason, is a hug and reassurance 99% of the time and it seems that any teacher who dares to provide this most basic of human interactions must risk their entire life every time they offer it.

Still so long as everyone is fked up it’s acceptable.

davido140

9,614 posts

228 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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article said:
The school, which cannot be named for legal reasons, took action after two children told a teacher that Mr Wilson had touched their bottoms and kissed them.
What the fk, are they retarded, could they not see this as being something made up in them mind of a small child, "touched their bottoms and kissed them" ??????? what self respecting kiddie fiddler would be caught bottom touching anyway! un-be-fking-leivable.

Does this even sound like something a genuinely abused child would say? not at all.

Sound like something a snotty little brat would come up with to try and get the teacher in trouble? Yes.




EDLT

15,421 posts

208 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Frankeh said:
thinfourth2 said:
I'm sure that if the inital case had been reported here you would be calling for his balls to be cut off before being shot.
You really don't know me if you think that.
I don't think he was directing it at you personally, but have we all forgotten about Rebecca Leighton and that bloke who was guilty of looking a bit weird?

turbobloke

104,330 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Rude-boy said:
thinfourth2 said:
Any male that goes into teaching must either be very brave or very stupid
I would never consider being a teacher for a number of reasons but at the very top of that list is the fact i have balls and a willy. It seems that if you have these it is only a question of when, not if, you have the first allegation made against you.

And they wonder why there are almost no male primary school teachers. FFS what a 6 year old wants when they are crying, for whatever reason, is a hug and reassurance 99% of the time and it seems that any teacher who dares to provide this most basic of human interactions must risk their entire life every time they offer it.

Still so long as everyone is fked up it’s acceptable.
That's about where it's at, looked at in the cold light of day. Jee and Zuss.

Still, it could be worse.

One of my companies has clients in the middle east and a UK contact out there mentioned another expat friend of theirs working in what shall remain a nameless city but to confirm, there are lots of men with beards and flowing white robes. This contact was a teacher in a local school and while at work saw a young girl fall over and graze her leg. He went over to comfort the girl and check her injury. He's still in jail.


dirty boy

14,718 posts

211 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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I'm not into the compensation culture, but i'd support him fully.

Is it going to finally end up with CCTV in every classroom across the country to protect teachers and children though?

hidetheelephants

25,030 posts

195 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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dirty boy said:
Is it going to finally end up with CCTV in every classroom across the country to protect teachers and children though?
Basically yes. It could perhaps work on a similar basis to Flight Data Recorders, the recording only accessible after a reported incident. Uncontrolled access to such recordings could cause worse problems than the kiddie fiddlers.

jesta1865

3,448 posts

211 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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hidetheelephants said:
dirty boy said:
Is it going to finally end up with CCTV in every classroom across the country to protect teachers and children though?
Basically yes. It could perhaps work on a similar basis to Flight Data Recorders, the recording only accessible after a reported incident. Uncontrolled access to such recordings could cause worse problems than the kiddie fiddlers.
it was lucky for the guy in Educating Essex last week that they had CCTV, and despite the fact the head may have been 99.9% sure the girl was lying he had to investigate.

By the way the guy who's been acquitted would have been suspended instantly as its a child protection issue, the school would not have been able to take the chance or had a choice. Its standard practice in a case like this.

turbobloke

104,330 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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jesta1865 said:
By the way the guy who's been acquitted would have been suspended instantly as its a child protection issue, the school would not have been able to take the chance or had a choice. Its standard practice in a case like this.
It is indeed and it ought not to be.

Uncorroborated evidence from an unreliable source is no basis for such a draconian response.

Accepted, it's the p.c. way to react and unless a school cuts a teacher off at the knees instantly they'll have the entire victim industry and ofsted on their back as quick as you can type travesty of justice.

That doesn't mean it's OK.

paulrockliffe

15,775 posts

229 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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hidetheelephants said:
Uncontrolled access to such recordings could cause worse problems than the kiddie fiddlers.
Like what exactly?

turbobloke

104,330 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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paulrockliffe said:
hidetheelephants said:
Uncontrolled access to such recordings could cause worse problems than the kiddie fiddlers.
Like what exactly?
These days schools try - and often succeed - in banning parents from taking photos of their own children at school swimming galas and sports days in case the parents upload the photos to the internet...the schools think that queues of paedos are constantly forming to perve over the images of Algernon and Persephone in the egg and spoon race. Just another sign of the batst crazy world we now have to endure as opposed to live in. Thoughts of a vid clip being recorded and seen eek would have a school in intensive care.

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

184 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Surprised that Telegraph article makes no mention of his wife, who also worked at the same school and was suspended because of her 'association with him'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2042085/Pe...

turbobloke

104,330 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Blimey. Guilty before proven innocent at a distance. Bizarre just got weirder.

elster

17,517 posts

212 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Frog Dog said:
V8mate said:
Article said:
During the trial, Mr Wilson broke down in the witness box as he denied gaining any sexual gratification from his behaviour, and said that the touching had been completely innocent.
So he did do it. He just didn't get the boner he was hoping for?
I did wonder the same, so he did touch them? Just not in a sexual way? Eh? You either touch/kiss kids or you don't right?
A hand on a shoulder?

911newbie

598 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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jesta1865 said:
it was lucky for the guy in Educating Essex last week that they had CCTV, and despite the fact the head may have been 99.9% sure the girl was lying he had to investigate.

By the way the guy who's been acquitted would have been suspended instantly as its a child protection issue, the school would not have been able to take the chance or had a choice. Its standard practice in a case like this.
Yes, that program was rather heartening in fact. The head went straight to the CCTV when the allegation was made, saw the evidence of zero contact, made a decision, and on the spot suspended the girl.

The girl looked absolutely shocked. I thought he did a very good job of telling her exactly why her behaviour was so appalling and why he was suspending immediately.

As a bloke, I wouldn't consider teaching in schools in any way shape or form these days.

CobolMan

1,417 posts

209 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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When I was teaching, and this is going back 15 years, the golden rule was never to be alone with a child in a room with the door closed. I can only think how bad it must be these days.

vonuber

17,868 posts

167 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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bucksmanuk said:
"It's more vindictive than anything else"
It's what left wingers do best!
Er.. what?

Negative Creep

25,016 posts

229 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Victor McDade said:
Surprised that Telegraph article makes no mention of his wife, who also worked at the same school and was suspended because of her 'association with him'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2042085/Pe...
Of course the likes of the Daily Mail have played no role in this sort of culture emerging

dandarez

13,317 posts

285 months

Tuesday 27th September 2011
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Negative Creep said:
Victor McDade said:
Surprised that Telegraph article makes no mention of his wife, who also worked at the same school and was suspended because of her 'association with him'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2042085/Pe...
Of course the likes of the Daily Mail have played no role in this sort of culture emerging
Blame the Wail. How pathetic. It's this country that's to blame with its pc brigade, the nannying culture, and so on.
Three quarters of all primary teachers are now female. And numbers of primary schools are growing where they have 'no' male teachers at all. What a situation! This country - on all counts - has lost it.

If I smile at a kid in the street the parent(s) (or partners? rolleyes) invariably now gives daggers...
same situation while I'm with my 20 month old granddaughter, big smiles!
What a bloody sad country this has become.

Didn't, and I really mean didn't (cos I was there!) used to be like this.