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carmonk said:
A bit more like Jesus? Does he mean an anti-establishment rabble-rouser? That's a strange thing for him to wish. Or does he mean he wants us to be delusional and think we can walk on water and rise from the dead. Equally inexplicable.
In actual fact Cameron has no clue what he's talking about. Christian on one hand, accepting of other religions and ways of life on the other. No, Mr Cameron, the Bible is clear on that. Those who worship other gods are not welcome in heaven and are contravening one of the basic tenets of Christianity. Cameron, like most moderate (cherry-picking) religious, appears to have litte knowledge of what exactly his religion tells him, and makes the schoolboy error of equating morality with religious instruction. To be honest I didn't know he was that dull.
Blimey, did you not do RE at school or were you just not listening?In actual fact Cameron has no clue what he's talking about. Christian on one hand, accepting of other religions and ways of life on the other. No, Mr Cameron, the Bible is clear on that. Those who worship other gods are not welcome in heaven and are contravening one of the basic tenets of Christianity. Cameron, like most moderate (cherry-picking) religious, appears to have litte knowledge of what exactly his religion tells him, and makes the schoolboy error of equating morality with religious instruction. To be honest I didn't know he was that dull.
I suspect I know the answer
Sticks. said:
carmonk said:
A bit more like Jesus? Does he mean an anti-establishment rabble-rouser? That's a strange thing for him to wish. Or does he mean he wants us to be delusional and think we can walk on water and rise from the dead. Equally inexplicable.
In actual fact Cameron has no clue what he's talking about. Christian on one hand, accepting of other religions and ways of life on the other. No, Mr Cameron, the Bible is clear on that. Those who worship other gods are not welcome in heaven and are contravening one of the basic tenets of Christianity. Cameron, like most moderate (cherry-picking) religious, appears to have litte knowledge of what exactly his religion tells him, and makes the schoolboy error of equating morality with religious instruction. To be honest I didn't know he was that dull.
Blimey, did you not do RE at school or were you just not listening?In actual fact Cameron has no clue what he's talking about. Christian on one hand, accepting of other religions and ways of life on the other. No, Mr Cameron, the Bible is clear on that. Those who worship other gods are not welcome in heaven and are contravening one of the basic tenets of Christianity. Cameron, like most moderate (cherry-picking) religious, appears to have litte knowledge of what exactly his religion tells him, and makes the schoolboy error of equating morality with religious instruction. To be honest I didn't know he was that dull.
I suspect I know the answer
carmonk said:
You're right, I do my own research and I'm not brainwashed into believing what is blatantly untrue. Like some.
No, wasn't whether it's true or not, just your assessment of what the key points of Christianity were. Still, surprised how little the media made of it, considering it could have likned it to the infamous 'back to basics' line.
Sticks. said:
carmonk said:
You're right, I do my own research and I'm not brainwashed into believing what is blatantly untrue. Like some.
No, wasn't whether it's true or not, just your assessment of what the key points of Christianity were. carmonk said:
...so I don't think I'm overplaying it when I suggest that Christianity isn't terribly amenable to other religious worship.
I disagree with that. But probably another thread.Re read my earlier comment which in hindsight looks facaetious, but was meant with some humour. No offence meant.
carmonk said:
What do you take issue with, the tenet that 'you shall not worship other gods'? That's Nos. 1 and 2 of the 10 Commandments. Indeed, not only will you be punished, divine vengeance will be wrought on your bloodline until the fourth generation, so I don't think I'm overplaying it when I suggest that Christianity isn't terribly amenable to other religious worship.
There are more or less than ten commandments. In the OT there are lots - one could say it goes OTT with commndmants - and in the NT there are just the two. What there is not is ten.vonuber said:
So is Cameron giving away his millions to help the poor?
I'm not sure I read about Jesus giving his money away to the poor. He suggested that others should.The teachings of Jesus, at least those allowed into the bible by Constantine, the well known heathan inventer of modern christianity, are a wonderful blueprint for a moral life. All it requires is effort and self-sacrifice.
There is a fundmental difference between the OT and the NT. Jesus was very parochial and was talking solely to the Jews, in effect telling them to ignore masses of the OT.
Sticks. said:
carmonk said:
...so I don't think I'm overplaying it when I suggest that Christianity isn't terribly amenable to other religious worship.
I disagree with that. But probably another thread.Re read my earlier comment which in hindsight looks facaetious, but was meant with some humour. No offence meant.
Derek Smith said:
carmonk said:
What do you take issue with, the tenet that 'you shall not worship other gods'? That's Nos. 1 and 2 of the 10 Commandments. Indeed, not only will you be punished, divine vengeance will be wrought on your bloodline until the fourth generation, so I don't think I'm overplaying it when I suggest that Christianity isn't terribly amenable to other religious worship.
There are more or less than ten commandments. In the OT there are lots - one could say it goes OTT with commndmants - and in the NT there are just the two. What there is not is ten.unrepentant said:
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today
Organised religion is the source of most of the worlds problems and I am nervous of any politician that wants to use it.
I much prefer disorganised religion.It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today
Organised religion is the source of most of the worlds problems and I am nervous of any politician that wants to use it.
There's a lot of hostility on here with regards the idea. We've got to look at what is wrong with our society, obesity levels, teen pregnancy levels, alcoholism amongst younger generations, a growing sense of individualism and breakdown of community, increasing wealth inequality and so on. What is the solution? What's been in decline while these things have grown? Christianity. Now I don't call for a resurgence of the church, in authoritative terms, but the teachings and principles I cannot argue with generally . Would any of the rioters and 'bankers' have acted differently if they had considered and appreciated the impact their actions were going to have on others a little more? I don't want flaming, I have been called 'self righteous' on here a few times and don't mean to be that way but that's how I feel.
Merry Christmas to all!
Merry Christmas to all!
anonymous said:
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You mean the nice, relevant teachings, don't you? Not the ones that advocate genocide, infanticide, sexism, intolerance, homophobia and oxen husbandry. And the reason you're able to pick out the nice teachings over the dozens of pages of exhortion to commit unspeakable acts is that you already possess those morals. So even excluding the negatives, such as believing in something that blatantly is not true, there is no reason to follow any aspect of Christianity or any other religion.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff