Food Stamps - What's the issue?
Discussion
surveyor said:
And how are they going to get to an interview - you have not given them the ability to travel in any way! Before you suggest a public transport card, how do you deal with the rural village which gets two buses a week?
Actually, thinking about it, the above would not be bad, provided that any other debts creditors agreements etc. can be frozen until the person is in employment. It's ok saying that they should not have Sky, but Sky would not agree to the contract being ended early on the same basis.
Same way I did, walk to nearest bus or train station, nearest mainline bus stop is a mile away, train station 3 miles. Then use a public transport card. People have legs for walking.Actually, thinking about it, the above would not be bad, provided that any other debts creditors agreements etc. can be frozen until the person is in employment. It's ok saying that they should not have Sky, but Sky would not agree to the contract being ended early on the same basis.
surveyor said:
And how are they going to get to an interview - you have not given them the ability to travel in any way!
Quite.The cheapest off-peak train ticket to London (where the jobs are) from where I live less than 15 miles away is £12.60.
Quite a chunk out of your £67.50. Worse if you're already en route and some cocksocket interviewer has just cancelled on you.
Some employers do (or more likely did) refund travel expenses for interviews, but at management level? I daren't even ask, just have to tough it out and pretend all's peachy.
I'm sure I can't be alone in this.
staceyb said:
surveyor said:
And how are they going to get to an interview - you have not given them the ability to travel in any way! Before you suggest a public transport card, how do you deal with the rural village which gets two buses a week?
Actually, thinking about it, the above would not be bad, provided that any other debts creditors agreements etc. can be frozen until the person is in employment. It's ok saying that they should not have Sky, but Sky would not agree to the contract being ended early on the same basis.
Same way I did, walk to nearest bus or train station, nearest mainline bus stop is a mile away, train station 3 miles. Then use a public transport card. People have legs for walking.Actually, thinking about it, the above would not be bad, provided that any other debts creditors agreements etc. can be frozen until the person is in employment. It's ok saying that they should not have Sky, but Sky would not agree to the contract being ended early on the same basis.
Mobile Chicane said:
surveyor said:
And how are they going to get to an interview - you have not given them the ability to travel in any way!
Quite.The cheapest off-peak train ticket to London (where the jobs are) from where I live less than 15 miles away is £12.60.
Quite a chunk out of your £67.50. Worse if you're already en route and some cocksocket interviewer has just cancelled on you.
Some employers do (or more likely did) refund travel expenses for interviews, but at management level? I daren't even ask, just have to tough it out and pretend all's peachy.
I'm sure I can't be alone in this.
Apologies if I've just made that up, but I'm sure I remember being told that when I was signed on (never had to claim it in practice as the company I got a job with offered from the outset to pay the travel expenses)...
Papa Hotel said:
This. And some s
te about it being against their youman rights to have to use vouchers instead of cash, marking them out to other people as bums.
Whats wrong with using vouchers? My company runs many schemes to save people money. Each month they take £95 out of my salery and give me £100 of vouchers (my choice its not compulsory). Saves me £60 a year, its not much but thats a tank of fuel in the Elise.te about it being against their youman rights to have to use vouchers instead of cash, marking them out to other people as bums. 
Cotty said:
Whats wrong with using vouchers? My company runs many schemes to save people money. Each month they take £95 out of my salery and give me £100 of vouchers (my choice its not compulsory). Saves me £60 a year, its not much but thats a tank of fuel in the Elise.
Mine too, something like £111 per month. I wasn't saying using vouchers to pay for some things is shameful, only alluding to the outcry there'd be from some sections of our supposed community should they be made to use vouchers instead of cash. Cotty said:
What's wrong with using vouchers? My company runs many schemes to save people money. Each month they take £95 out of my salary and give me £100 of vouchers (my choice its not compulsory). Saves me £60 a year, its not much but that's a tank of fuel in the Elise.
A hundred quid a month is never enough to feed you, greedy pig.Semi hemi said:
I would think the cost of producing & distributing "food stamps" then reimbursing the vendors would be a very expensive if not petty & futile exercise
This is the answer. You'd end up paying for a system that benefits only the supermarkets and creates a bigger government.Stupid and petty.
Rather than Food Stamps/Vouchers, what about a debit card system that takes money from a government account?
The JSA and other benefits could be paid into it, then the card could be used for purchases, these purchases could be logged (like a loyalty card) and analysed.
Can you imagine how much the government would be able to spend trying to implement that!
The JSA and other benefits could be paid into it, then the card could be used for purchases, these purchases could be logged (like a loyalty card) and analysed.
Can you imagine how much the government would be able to spend trying to implement that!
BertB said:
Rather than Food Stamps/Vouchers, what about a debit card system that takes money from a government account?
The JSA and other benefits could be paid into it, then the card could be used for purchases, these purchases could be logged (like a loyalty card) and analysed.
Can you imagine how much the government would be able to spend trying to implement that!
It sounds like a dream ticket for big government as you can bet if that was brought in for all recieving benefits it would take about 2 minutes before it was applied to everyone.The JSA and other benefits could be paid into it, then the card could be used for purchases, these purchases could be logged (like a loyalty card) and analysed.
Can you imagine how much the government would be able to spend trying to implement that!
Get you wages paid onto your goverment spending card and if you want a big telly you have to apply before you can buy it.
Erm no thanks lets just keep giving the doleites cash please
staceyb said:
My solution would to give them a pre-paid card that will only allow transactions on essential items (food (fresh only), milk, gas, leccy, water, a choice of mobile or landline bill, a restricted dongle that can look at job-search sites only.
Wonderfull.The temptation is to suggest that the bold bit says it all.
We are going to have around 3 million unemployed in the near future - it's well over 2.5 now - and it seems you want to stop them buying burgers.
The same sort of arguments were given when Thatcher, voted in with a promise of reducing the unemployment figures of a litte over 1 million, increased the official figure to 3.5 million but in point of fact much greater. We had MPs saying that people should get on their bikes and go somewhere else to get jobs, presumably the long cycle down from Sheffield to London - but at least we didn't have them restricing what they eat.
Since around 2008 the unemployment figures have more than doubled. Claiments going up from a low of less than 700,000. So one would assume that the additional 700,000+ claimants all paid their NI. And despite this they should not be allowed to eat prepared food.
It seems that everyone wants to control how others run their lives.
Fresh food! Really?
I paid NI for 50 years. If I had claimed I must admit that I would not be amused by some interfering busybody searching through my basket when I was queuing at the ASDA checkout.
Derek Smith said:
It seems that everyone wants to control how others run their lives.
While accepting no control on their own life. Amazing how people tend to be libertarian as long as it's about 'their own', yet want to apply a level of authoritariansim last seen ca. 1933-45 in Central Europe on 'the others'. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff