Canadian Honor Killings - Guilty

[King Herald]

Deva Link said:

Just wait until they're in the majority. Will they be tolerant of Western culture?

Sharia law is taking over in small enclaves in the UK. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

[pacman1]

Jimbeaux said:

pacman1 said:

Honestly, I can't believe a nation of upatanding people would allow others to join them before ensuring the basic values of that country were thoroughly understood.

Do you think that matters? Do you think just because they understood, they would comply? People like this are arrogant and look upon those that would be the ones to make them understand as inferior and unclean.

So what are the Canadians doing about it, maybe three strikes and you're out? Before you know it, they'll have enclaves all over the place.
The whole Canadian way of life will change, and there'll be nothing they can do to reverse it.

[Jimbeaux]

Deva Link said:

Jimbeaux said:

..why are the conditions allowed to fester that allows these things.

Just wait until they're in the majority. Will they be tolerant of Western culture?

Of course not; that is the reserve of us hand wringers. Anyone stupid enough to willingly foster their own undoing deserves it I suppose.

[Jimbeaux]

pacman1 said:

Jimbeaux said:

pacman1 said:

Honestly, I can't believe a nation of upatanding people would allow others to join them before ensuring the basic values of that country were thoroughly understood.

Do you think that matters? Do you think just because they understood, they would comply? People like this are arrogant and look upon those that would be the ones to make them understand as inferior and unclean.

So what are the Canadians doing about it, maybe three strikes and you're out? Before you know it, they'll have enclaves all over the place.
The whole Canadian way of life will change, and there'll be nothing they can do to reverse it.

I guess their "pride of their openess", etc worked well when Europeans or like-minded folks were their main immigration source. They may want to rethink that now that a whole other dynamic is setting in.

[Mermaid]

Jimbeaux said:

Canada has no death penalty; only the victims die in this case.

Rendition to the US

[Jimbeaux]

Mermaid said:

Jimbeaux said:

Canada has no death penalty; only the victims die in this case.

Rendition to the US

Oh no, it happened in Canada, let them play it out.

[pacman1]

Jimbeaux said:

pacman1 said:

Jimbeaux said:

pacman1 said:

Honestly, I can't believe a nation of upatanding people would allow others to join them before ensuring the basic values of that country were thoroughly understood.

Do you think that matters? Do you think just because they understood, they would comply? People like this are arrogant and look upon those that would be the ones to make them understand as inferior and unclean.

So what are the Canadians doing about it, maybe three strikes and you're out? Before you know it, they'll have enclaves all over the place.
The whole Canadian way of life will change, and there'll be nothing they can do to reverse it.

I guess their "pride of their openess", etc worked well when Europeans or like-minded folks were their main immigration source. They may want to rethink that now that a whole other dynamic is setting in.

They should have proper immigration and border controls in place and vet people prior to entry. Make them appreciate what a privelage it is to live in a free and democratic society, rather than just carry on as if they were at home, with scant regard to the ways of their hosts.

[mrmr96]

I think that we (me, you, the police, the government and the press) should STOP CALLING THESE CASES HONOUR KILLINGS. There is nothing honourable about it.

Also, don't refer to it being a "custom" or "tradition" or any other bullst from "back home". Presents the wrong picture IMO.

Edited by mrmr96 on Monday 30th January 22:00

[Pesty]

The father was quoted as saying

"I would do it again 100 times"; "May the devil st on their graves. Is that what a daughter should be? Would a daughter be such a we?" And "God's curse on them for generations. ... They betrayed Islam."

Yet the media and muslims repeatedly tell us honour killings have nothing to do with Islam.

This guy dissagrees

[Bing o]

mrmr96 said:

I think that we (me, you, the police, the government and the press) should STOP CALLING THESE CASES HONOUR KILLINGS. There is nothing honourable about it.

Also, don't refer to it being a "custom" or "tradition" or any other bullst from "back home". Presents the wrong picture IMO.

Edited by mrmr96 on Monday 30th January 22:00

The sooner we start sending deporting these types the better. I don't see why the door is only one way. Everyone gets a chance, but if you fk up, it's off home with you.

And fk your 'human rights'.

I think I will be in danger of agreeing with Jimbeaux as well.

[Mermaid]

Pesty said:

..

...Yet the media and muslims repeatedly tell us honour killings have nothing to do with Islam.

I wonder what the stats say.

[Hooli]

Bing o said:

mrmr96 said:

I think that we (me, you, the police, the government and the press) should STOP CALLING THESE CASES HONOUR KILLINGS. There is nothing honourable about it.

Also, don't refer to it being a "custom" or "tradition" or any other bullst from "back home". Presents the wrong picture IMO.

Edited by mrmr96 on Monday 30th January 22:00

The sooner we start sending deporting these types the better. I don't see why the door is only one way. Everyone gets a chance, but if you fk up, it's off home with you.

And fk your 'human rights'.

I think I will be in danger of agreeing with Jimbeaux as well.

Agreed totally.

[DonkeyApple]

A rather elegant solution would be for anyone wishing to move to the UK to have to pass a test at the British embassy in the country of their origin. Anyone who arrives without having taken this test is sent home with a leaflet in English explaining what they need to do.

The test would be relatively simple and involve proving they can read and write as well as speak English to a sufficient level. They are then photgraphed and fingerprinted and a request is made to their government for all records kept on the person re any unsavourary activity. It is also explained to them at this point that they will not be eligiable for any welfare, other than NHS and schooling for children until they have contributed to the tax system of the UK for 5 years

Once that is all done and the electronic file has been compiled and is ready to be sent to the UK for final approval they then lodge a refundable fee of £5k. This is returned after 5 years so long as that person has not broken any laws etc. If during the 5 year probationary period they break any laws they are sent home. After that period they are fully fledged British citizens and can sit in a free house, getting free money and scratching their balls all day if that is what they wish to do.

Those of a liberal persuassion in the UK can help bring as many people into Britain as they wish by helping to teach them English and by lodging the £5k deposit on their behalf. Thus, they get to help out as much as they wish to.

At the same time, back in the UK, we cease printing documents in any language but English and remove all translation services.

[Hooli]

DonkeyApple said:

A rather elegant solution would be for anyone wishing to move to the UK to have to pass a test at the British embassy in the country of their origin. Anyone who arrives without having taken this test is sent home with a leaflet in English explaining what they need to do.

The test would be relatively simple and involve proving they can read and write as well as speak English to a sufficient level. They are then photgraphed and fingerprinted and a request is made to their government for all records kept on the person re any unsavourary activity. It is also explained to them at this point that they will not be eligiable for any welfare, other than NHS and schooling for children until they have contributed to the tax system of the UK for 5 years

Once that is all done and the electronic file has been compiled and is ready to be sent to the UK for final approval they then lodge a refundable fee of £5k. This is returned after 5 years so long as that person has not broken any laws etc. If during the 5 year probationary period they break any laws they are sent home. After that period they are fully fledged British citizens and can sit in a free house, getting free money and scratching their balls all day if that is what they wish to do.

Those of a liberal persuassion in the UK can help bring as many people into Britain as they wish by helping to teach them English and by lodging the £5k deposit on their behalf. Thus, they get to help out as much as they wish to.

At the same time, back in the UK, we cease printing documents in any language but English and remove all translation services.

I like this plan

[stitched]

Hooli said:

DonkeyApple said:

A rather elegant solution would be for anyone wishing to move to the UK to have to pass a test at the British embassy in the country of their origin. Anyone who arrives without having taken this test is sent home with a leaflet in English explaining what they need to do.

The test would be relatively simple and involve proving they can read and write as well as speak English to a sufficient level. They are then photgraphed and fingerprinted and a request is made to their government for all records kept on the person re any unsavourary activity. It is also explained to them at this point that they will not be eligiable for any welfare, other than NHS and schooling for children until they have contributed to the tax system of the UK for 5 years

Once that is all done and the electronic file has been compiled and is ready to be sent to the UK for final approval they then lodge a refundable fee of £5k. This is returned after 5 years so long as that person has not broken any laws etc. If during the 5 year probationary period they break any laws they are sent home. After that period they are fully fledged British citizens and can sit in a free house, getting free money and scratching their balls all day if that is what they wish to do.

Those of a liberal persuassion in the UK can help bring as many people into Britain as they wish by helping to teach them English and by lodging the £5k deposit on their behalf. Thus, they get to help out as much as they wish to.

At the same time, back in the UK, we cease printing documents in any language but English and remove all translation services.

I like this plan

Love it, would only work for a generation though. How many of the criminal 'gangsta' types are the progeny of immigrants who came here to work hard , many parents are utterly appalled by the behavior of their offspring.

[Mermaid]

DonkeyApple said:

A rather elegant solution would be for anyone wishing to move to the UK to have to pass a test at the British embassy in the country of their origin. Anyone who arrives without having taken this test is sent home with a leaflet in English explaining what they need to do.

The test would be relatively simple and involve proving they can read and write as well as speak English to a sufficient level. They are then photgraphed and fingerprinted and a request is made to their government for all records kept on the person re any unsavourary activity. It is also explained to them at this point that they will not be eligiable for any welfare, other than NHS and schooling for children until they have contributed to the tax system of the UK for 10 years

Once that is all done and the electronic file has been compiled and is ready to be sent to the UK for final approval they then lodge a refundable fee of £50k. This is returned after 10 years so long as that person has not broken any laws etc. If during the 10 year probationary period they break any laws they are sent home. After that period they are fully fledged British citizens and can sit in a free house, getting free money to 50% of the extent they have paid income tax and scratching their balls all day if that is what they wish to do.

Any illegal immigrant is sent back somewhere, asylum seekers get housed in an uncomfortable refugee camp. Any employer using illegal labour is fined £50k per employee

At the same time, back in the UK, we cease printing documents in any language but English and remove all translation services.

A few amends & additions, but a good concept.

[stitched]

Impose a fine of 5K on every family who has a child. 5 years to pay it then if their sprog attains a set criteria by age 21 then money is returned, or given said sprog.
If you are on benefits and can't raise 5K then it is stopped from your child benefit.
Result.

[Finlandia]

mrmr96 said:

I think that we (me, you, the police, the government and the press) should STOP CALLING THESE CASES HONOUR KILLINGS. There is nothing honourable about it.

This. Why cannot the press and everyone else stop referring to these murders as "honour killings"?

Wasn't there a non-speeding campaign in Australia some time back where it essentially was implied that speeders suffered from the "small willy syndrome"? Why not use that sort of tactics for these type of murders as well?

[MX7]

King Herald said:

Sharia law is taking over in small enclaves in the UK.

Only if you read the Daily Mail.

mrmr96 said:

I think that we (me, you, the police, the government and the press) should STOP CALLING THESE CASES HONOUR KILLINGS. There is nothing honourable about it.

The point is that they are carried out in an attempt to preserve the family's honour. No normal person thinks there is any honour attached to killing members of your own family.

What term would you use to describe the killing of a young girl by her own family because they feel that she had brought shame on her family? No one is genuinely confused by the term.

[Pickled Piper]

anonymous said:

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No idea about a jury, however, increased awareness amongst Police, Social Services and very importantly, LEAs means that evidence gathering is more effective and suspicions aroused earlier. As an example, in my local LEA pupils are placed on a "watch list" if teachers suspect they are at risk of abduction or worse. It just so happens that the majority of girls on the list are of Bangladeshi or Pakistani origin. In a number of high profile cases round the Country it has been the school teachers that have flagged the "disappearance".

pp