Brighton Bus Drivers Can't Call Wimin 'Babe'

Brighton Bus Drivers Can't Call Wimin 'Babe'

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karona

1,920 posts

188 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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The phone rang and the boss answered it. After a moment he said "O.K. Petal"
Clearly audible across the room a raised female voice exclaimed "DON'T CALL ME PETAL!"
The boss, sheepishly: "Oh, sorry Flower" and hung up.

hyperblue

2,803 posts

182 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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As long as they also ban 'mate', fking annoying!

Dimski

2,099 posts

201 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Honestly, there are bigger things to worry about than regional slang, which is mostly just someone being friendly.

Also, if someone is just attempting to be friendly, and gets burned for it they are likely in the future, in an effort not to offend, to act distant, aloof and come across as a tt.

Seems to me that a crackdown could just make things worse.

Derek Smith

45,904 posts

250 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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There is a lot of evidence to suggest that 'love', 'flower', 'petal' etc is ethnic, or at the very least regional, and to stop people using it is racist under current legislation.

The problem with the English language, although only as far as such idiots who complain about being called a sex-specific title, is that there is no non sex-specific name for an individual. Sir or madam slurred into one word is about as near as we can get.

The term guys is nowadays taken to be inclusive but even so there have been complaints when it has been used in the past.

What has made people, guys, man so touchy these days? Such terms are soft, gentle and friendly yet, it seems, this is too much for some. We had a female chief inspector at one nick of mine who said that she did not want to be called ma'am or madam for some reason so the blokes, most of whom seemed to be on my shift, called her sir. When I challenged one he (two of my WPCs called her sir as well) said that it was that or b*tch. You'd think she'd have encouraged sex specific words as that was the way she got her promotion beyond sergeant.

I got told off for pointing out to some council outreach workers, or at least the woman in charge (it is never a man) the etymological derivation of two words.

When my sergeant used the word female he was told, albeit in a ostensibly friendly way, that it was sexist as it was a modified form of male. I pointed out that she was talking through her a*se, although not in those words, and in a violently supportive and generous tone, said that male came from the French homme and female from femelle so it was not a modification but the very thing that they were after, a specific word for a woman that was not baed on a modification of the term for a man.

It all went quiet. The best reply I got was that for those not aware of the derivation it would appear sexist. I said that that doesn't go for this group now.

I got a pull from my chief inspector, not at the meeting so some silly c*w obviously complained (no self respect there) but I was unable to tell whehter I was being told off or congratulated.

Such tochy people should be put in a bin and rolled down a hill into a river. Then they'd experience something they could, fiarly reasonably, complain about - despite deserving such punishment and more.

Glassman

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22,667 posts

217 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Derek Smith said:
Such tochy people should be put in a bin and rolled down a hill into a river. Then they'd experience something they could, fiarly reasonably, complain about - despite deserving such punishment and more.
laugh

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

235 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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why would they be offended by being called 'Babe'? It was a great film

Frankeh

12,558 posts

187 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Can we please get a policy in place to stop them being such grumpy fks? That would be better, imo.

Hooli

32,278 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Frankeh said:
Can we please get a policy in place to stop them being such grumpy fks? That would be better, imo.
I used to drive buses in Worthing & occasionally over to Brighton on two routes, the main reason I was a grumpy sod was the endless scum I was forced to endure as passengers.

Frankeh

12,558 posts

187 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Hooli said:
Frankeh said:
Can we please get a policy in place to stop them being such grumpy fks? That would be better, imo.
I used to drive buses in Worthing & occasionally over to Brighton on two routes, the main reason I was a grumpy sod was the endless scum I was forced to endure as passengers.
That's fair enough but I've had some REALLY overly obnoxious bus drivers in the past.
One time I only had a £20 note (I know, but it was 8:50 and the local shop hadn't opened to get some change from) and I said to the bus driver 'Sorry, I only have a £20. Do you have change, if not I'll get the next one.' he said 'no that's fine.' and then dispensed all my change in £1's, 50p's and 20p's just to spite me.

I obviously told him where to stick his 50 and 20p's.

I don't understand why a select few just feel the need to st on people for no reason.

Another example that happens often is bus drivers just not opening to the door for me once it's closed. I'd understand if they'd started moving (regulations?) but sometimes they're just sitting there in traffic with me knocking on the door and they just look straight ahead and ignore me for 10 seconds or so.

Hooli

32,278 posts

202 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Frankeh said:
Hooli said:
Frankeh said:
Can we please get a policy in place to stop them being such grumpy fks? That would be better, imo.
I used to drive buses in Worthing & occasionally over to Brighton on two routes, the main reason I was a grumpy sod was the endless scum I was forced to endure as passengers.
That's fair enough but I've had some REALLY overly obnoxious bus drivers in the past.
One time I only had a £20 note (I know, but it was 8:50 and the local shop hadn't opened to get some change from) and I said to the bus driver 'Sorry, I only have a £20. Do you have change, if not I'll get the next one.' he said 'no that's fine.' and then dispensed all my change in £1's, 50p's and 20p's just to spite me.

I obviously told him where to stick his 50 and 20p's.

I don't understand why a select few just feel the need to st on people for no reason.

Another example that happens often is bus drivers just not opening to the door for me once it's closed. I'd understand if they'd started moving (regulations?) but sometimes they're just sitting there in traffic with me knocking on the door and they just look straight ahead and ignore me for 10 seconds or so.
I think most companies work the same as Stagecoach & the driver gets about £5 for a float, hardly enough on a busy trip considering I used to take about £400-500 on a monday when everyone was buying weekly tickets. So depending on when he started that could have been his only change, the other option is a 'change voucher' which is basicly an IOU which you couldn't then buy your lunch with - I never knew a passenger who didn't hate these. BTW - letting people ride free is a reason to get fired.

As for opening doors, if they let someone on (or off) away from a stop then it's them at risk if anything happened. A typical example in Worthing was trying to turn right over West Worthing crossing & being stuck for 20mins in traffic. Let anyone off while stuck in the RH lane & it's possible to get fired.

Or he was a grumpy tt, I know I always was as I hated the job.

Frankeh

12,558 posts

187 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Every other bus driver ever say 'Sorry, not got any change.' and then lets me get on with my life. This guy was just an asshole.
Also, as I said the bus hadn't moved at all from the stop. It'd just closed its doors and sat there in front of some other vehicle.

I've noticed it's only been women bus drivers who have done that to me.

Then again I've had good bus drivers who've let me on for free and one even just refused payment even though I had correct change. I guess it was his last day or something, though.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

235 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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some people would be glad of being able to get on a bus, even with the big bag of change, the bloke probably thought he was doing you a favour

Frankeh

12,558 posts

187 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Hugo a Gogo said:
some people would be glad of being able to get on a bus, even with the big bag of change, the bloke probably thought he was doing you a favour
I gave him an out, that's what makes no sense.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

235 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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well, he did have the change, just not in the form you were after

he could have said 'Only all in coins I'm afraid' or something, I suppose

Otispunkmeyer

12,689 posts

157 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Did anyone see the bint on BBC 1 news this morning commenting on this on the sofa?

What a moron she was. Pure wanting to reach into the TV and smack her in the chops moment.

ExChrispy Porker

16,972 posts

230 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Otispunkmeyer said:
Did anyone see the bint on BBC 1 news this morning commenting on this on the sofa?

What a moron she was. Pure wanting to reach into the TV and smack her in the chops moment.
Apparently a builder once said she was a 'babe'.
Must have been just after they finished Stonehenge.

HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

286 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Derek Smith said:
When my sergeant used the word female he was told, albeit in a ostensibly friendly way, that it was sexist as it was a modified form of male
"Female" is fine when used as an alternative to "male", but some men tend to use it in an unnatural sense to avoid committing to either "woman" or "girl" (for the adult and minor forms respectively) when they'd have no problem deciding when to use "man" or "boy".

You don't find many women referring to each other in normal conversation as "females", and although there is a reasonable argument against "girl" for an adult, lots of women seem unbothered by using the term themselves.

Hyper10

432 posts

171 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Insanity Magnet said:
voyds9 said:
Will they be also banning bud, pal and mate for the men.

Don't find it sexist but still annoys me.
Alright 'chap'? Also due removal from the male vocab.
All the above and Bruv!, Bruv!

ExChrispy Porker

16,972 posts

230 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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Hyper10 said:
All the above and Bruv!, Bruv!
Being in my mid 40's and being addressed as "sonny"....

sussexjob

2,009 posts

233 months

Wednesday 1st February 2012
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As a Brightonian the term for strapon wearers is a bus driver.