What is the future of the UK
Poll: What is the future of the UK
Total Members Polled: 307
Discussion
F i F said:
ditto, when I visit my home town i.e. where born and raised, or the town where I still own property, or the nearest city, or the seaside place where the family used to spend our holidays, I feel like a stranger in a foreign land.
All manner of reasons why that is and nothing whatsoever to do with, at times, being a solitary white face, said before anybody plays the R card.
Thats globalisation for you.All manner of reasons why that is and nothing whatsoever to do with, at times, being a solitary white face, said before anybody plays the R card.
Theres a lot less British cars, machines, clothing etc etc on the streets too. Just the same with labour.
Shay HTFC said:
Thats globalisation for you.
Theres a lot less British cars, machines, clothing etc etc on the streets too. Just the same with labour.
But equally I sometimes feel a stranger in a foreign land when surrounded by some people who are clearly Anglo Saxon, yet do not appear to have any British values that I recognise, nor indeed any values that I would wish to be associated with.Theres a lot less British cars, machines, clothing etc etc on the streets too. Just the same with labour.
And that has got zero to do with globalisation, foreign cars, clothing, ethnics or foreign labour.
Cripes, my old English master will be turning in his grave. Two sentences, one starts with "but," the second commencing with "and."
Muslamic caliphate (thanks to zero immigration checks and integration efforts), Marxist client-nanny state (thanks to Labour producing a generation of feckless moron voters), Feudal landlord and tenant state (thanks to housing market and planning control's)
So many possibilities. Whatever happens, I dont see much reason to be optimistic, particularly not if youre a car owner. Get out while you're still allowed.
So many possibilities. Whatever happens, I dont see much reason to be optimistic, particularly not if youre a car owner. Get out while you're still allowed.
jains15 said:
Surely we would lose the Scottish part of the union flag, leaving the two red crosses on a white background. f
king sad if you ask me.
If that is their only contribution I won't be crying when we see the back of them and they start to learn that they need us more than we need them! I've been watching Rugby today :-) king sad if you ask me.
We have an out of control benefits culture that rewards the feckless for overbreeding and penalises those who bother to work, and the politicians don't have the bottle to sort this out and instead set crazy caps for benefits that are higher than the national average household income 
Added to this the thousands of kids who are tit-fed through the education system expecting everything handed to them on a plate, a bloated inefficient public sector that the government is terrified of trying to control for fear of vote losses - I think the future is quite bad for us.
I have hope that things will change, but I think we'll need an uprising to get anything sorted as the country is held back by the current political system where a red or blue tie is the same thing, and due to the short terms of power everything is done for popularity rather than the longterm good of the country because to make the right changes would mean certain loss at the next election.
Added to this the thousands of kids who are tit-fed through the education system expecting everything handed to them on a plate, a bloated inefficient public sector that the government is terrified of trying to control for fear of vote losses - I think the future is quite bad for us.I have hope that things will change, but I think we'll need an uprising to get anything sorted as the country is held back by the current political system where a red or blue tie is the same thing, and due to the short terms of power everything is done for popularity rather than the longterm good of the country because to make the right changes would mean certain loss at the next election.
I voted negative. I think we are overdue a drop in the overall standard of living for the majority. Our professional gambler/professional time-waster driven economy just isn't cutting it any more and there is no more left to borrow to make up the difference.
However, I think there will be a minority of people that actually do stuff that will benefit and with all the media frenzy surrounding the financial sector I think that there is a chance that this can continue to be a contributor to UK plc, but in a slightly healthier and more well-balanced way.
However, I think there will be a minority of people that actually do stuff that will benefit and with all the media frenzy surrounding the financial sector I think that there is a chance that this can continue to be a contributor to UK plc, but in a slightly healthier and more well-balanced way.
uk_vette said:
I voted " I have left"
The UK is too small now to be any sort of influence on the wider world.
We are not majority British any more, we are, from what I feel, more foreign than British.
Then the governments are totally wrecking what little we have left.
What one party sees a good way forward, the other party who gets in may be next election or the following election, sems to take great pleasure in undoing things.
Then the circle keeps on going.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the Countries like China, with a 1 party state, have the right idea after all?
They just seem to move forward, and forward, and forward, and not 2 steps forward, and 2 steps back, like we do here in UK
vette
Wait a sec....The UK is too small now to be any sort of influence on the wider world.
We are not majority British any more, we are, from what I feel, more foreign than British.
Then the governments are totally wrecking what little we have left.
What one party sees a good way forward, the other party who gets in may be next election or the following election, sems to take great pleasure in undoing things.
Then the circle keeps on going.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the Countries like China, with a 1 party state, have the right idea after all?
They just seem to move forward, and forward, and forward, and not 2 steps forward, and 2 steps back, like we do here in UK
vette
You say we aren't majority British anymore (untrue anyway), yet you have left, which presumably makes whichever country you have left for less indigenous as well.
My 2p, is that the future could be very rosy, provided that the people in Westminster, start putting the UK first.
We can easily use the collapse of the Euro to further expand the city, allowing us to pay off our debt, lower taxes and offer incentives for businesses to invest in UK manufacturing.
Removing a huge chunk of the national overhead and increasing productivity, is easy, but would take balls:
We can easily use the collapse of the Euro to further expand the city, allowing us to pay off our debt, lower taxes and offer incentives for businesses to invest in UK manufacturing.
Removing a huge chunk of the national overhead and increasing productivity, is easy, but would take balls:
- Drop benefits down to an absolute minimum (and only available to those who are either UK citizens, or have paid in, for a sensible minimum period) with exception of disability benefits, which should be only available to those who are genuinely in need.
- Reduce foreign aid to sending physical UK manufactured and sourced goods to disaster areas.
- No more subsidies for "green" energy production, if your windymill farm can't pay for itself on a commercial level, why should I subsidise it!
- Reduce EU membership payments
- Remove daft counterproductive EU legislation.
oyster said:
Wait a sec....
You say we aren't majority British anymore (untrue anyway), yet you have left, which presumably makes whichever country you have left for less indigenous as well.
It can be a mindset as well as a nationality. The UK has become a spiteful place where you can't have nice possessions any more without someone stealing or damaging them, where success is punished through envy, jealousy and punitive taxes, and mediocrity applauded. I also don't like going out of a Saturday lunchtime and hearing a load of chavs effing and blinding in the high street. You say we aren't majority British anymore (untrue anyway), yet you have left, which presumably makes whichever country you have left for less indigenous as well.
It is possible to feel more 'at home' somewhere other than where you were born, based on your own values.
-Pete- said:
I agree with groak and AndrewWW. I voted Positive, because I think those foreign people not that far away in europe are in deeper stuff than we are. It's all relative...
And that's the UK's biggest foreign export market...Plus, even if the UK does escape, and the EU is in tatters, where do you think all the poor and desperate EU citizens will go to get their free house and benefits?
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