Define Britishness

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MX7

7,902 posts

176 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Tartan Pixie said:
So, how would you define Britishness?
It's a desire to define things.

You can't really define a country in a few words. Cream teas? Morgan cars? Cricket on the green? It's none of them really, and nor is it the drunk chavs, inedible motorway service station food and endless rain. Like everywhere, it's a mix with massive variation.


Saddle bum

4,211 posts

221 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Kermit power said:
To me "Britishness" is an artificial, meaningless concept which is merely used for bureaucratic, administrative purposes.

There's far more national identity to being English, Welsh or Scottish.
Agreed.

"British" is a political word used to smother the aspirations of the separate nations within the UK.

It is also used for identical reasons within the EU.

With all political groups, "English" is a non-word, never to be used.

speedy_thrills

7,762 posts

245 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Surely a traditional view of being British is about the shared history of four quite different countries that are intertwined by population migration, conflict, trade and culture.

Of course a contemporary view might also add that this now also includes people from the former British Empire, as well as the Commonwealth and European Union. However perhaps if you ask a first generation British person why they chose Britain they might answer “Opportunity” which and if you had asked an Irish person the same question two hundred years ago they might have given the same answer. Perhaps the closest answer is that being British is the mutually shared desire to have a better lot in life be that through industry, law or government.

Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

281 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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If this image makes your heart beat faster you have a modicum of Britishness.


anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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I would refer to the actions of our diplomats and officials in the Falklands case and contrast that to the approach being taken by the Argentinians. Theirs appears petulant and ours appears calm, humble but firm. I think that's very British.

Roman

2,031 posts

221 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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speedy_thrills said:
cal216610 said:
Seeing this thread, i thought of this.
"The Story of Keep Calm and Carry On"
That was excellent.

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

221 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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The British English have only three states of annoyance:

Peeved

Miffed

A bit cross.

The last time they were "a bit cross" was during the Blitz, when tea supplies very nearly ran out.

otolith

56,834 posts

206 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Saddle bum said:
The British English have only three states of annoyance:

Peeved

Miffed

A bit cross.

The last time they were "a bit cross" was during the Blitz, when tea supplies very nearly ran out.
There is a fourth state, but it is only ever seen when someone proposes a change to the sporting code or etiquette of cricket or fly fishing.

speedy_thrills

7,762 posts

245 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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otolith said:
Like There is a fourth state, but it is only ever seen when someone proposes a change to the sporting code or etiquette of cricket or fly fishing.
This from the nation that also brought us bodyline bowling.

Digga

40,580 posts

285 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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dandarez said:
Eric Mc said:
And get flattened by an illegal immigrant driving an untaxed and uninsured Ford SierraToyota Corolla.
roflroflrofl

The unfunny and tragic side to that is it 'really' could happen and worse, nobody today would bat an eyelid!

Britishness?
Virtually disappeared. It's simply nostalgia to many of us now.
Just glad I saw and was part of some of it.
Fixed that for authenticity.

Eric Mc

122,343 posts

267 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Ayahuasca said:
If this image makes your heart beat faster you have a modicum of Britishness.

I presume you spotted the Polish Air Force insignia on the nose?

TheForceV4

543 posts

189 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Putting up with everything.

otolith

56,834 posts

206 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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speedy_thrills said:
otolith said:
Like There is a fourth state, but it is only ever seen when someone proposes a change to the sporting code or etiquette of cricket or fly fishing.
This from the nation that also brought us bodyline bowling.
Bodyline bowling is exactly the kind of thing which gets British old farts lathered up into red faced indignation - but you'll see it expressed in the letters pages of The Telegraph or Trout & Salmon, and the indignation will be even stronger if the offence is being caused by fellow Englishmen (one can expect no better from the colonials). wink

Mr_B

10,480 posts

245 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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If you can't watch Carry On Up The Khyber and love it, hand in your passport.

marcosgt

11,034 posts

178 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Ayahuasca said:
If this image makes your heart beat faster you have a modicum of Britishness.

I presume you spotted the Polish Air Force insignia on the nose?
Pah, nothing new - All those bloody immigrants coming over here taking jobs from our fighter pilots.

It wasn't like that in the war, you know!

Ohh - I think I may have come up with a definition wink

M

elster

17,517 posts

212 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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Saddle bum said:
The British English have only three states of annoyance:

Peeved

Miffed

A bit cross.

The last time they were "a bit cross" was during the Blitz, when tea supplies very nearly ran out.
No, there is also the letter writing stage.

alfaman

6,416 posts

236 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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I thought being British was about :

Driving to work for an American bank , in a German car, drinking Italian coffee..., and on the way home stopping for an Indian take-away, , before spending the evening slumped on a Swedish sofa watching a Japanese TV while drinking some Belgian beer.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

202 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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As daft as it sounds it is queuing, which in itself about playing (the game/everything) by the rules (look at how we implement EU directives) (fair play) or you could call it good manners, which is where a stiff upper lip, don't make a scene, don't complain (even if you've every right).

It's roundabouts (giving way without needing traffic lights).

In truth its perhaps more of an ideal or wishful thinking, Paxman was talking about on Empire last night.

Clearly

F i F

44,441 posts

253 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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The Crack Fox said:
For me, it's the sense of fair play and genuine courtesy, I've lived and worked in different places but blighty is best for this.
This is epitomised when someone accidentally bumps into you in the street or a public place and even if it is 100% the other person's fault, you still apologise immediately.

Sorry!

BruceV8

3,325 posts

249 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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ShayneJ said:
Britishness is a state of mind.

It helps to be born on these islands but it's not a prerequisite.
This is something I've been saying for years.