Why are children so much more important than adults?

Why are children so much more important than adults?

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Pickled Piper

6,349 posts

237 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Singlecoil, I will hazard a guess you are not a parent and I don't mean that to sound belittling. As someone else stated, as humans we are hardwired to protect and nurture the young. Most families would eventually recover emotionally from the loss of a parent or sibling, very few parents recover from the loss of a child.

pp


singlecoil

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34,037 posts

248 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Do you think the news would not be reported if 28 adults had been killed?
It's not whether or not it should be reported that I am querying, it's the "22 children killed" headline, as if the adults don't count.

phil1979

3,572 posts

217 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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singlecoil said:
It's not whether or not it should be reported that I am querying, it's the "22 children killed" headline, as if the adults don't count.
What do you expect, though? Perhaps:

"Bus and tunnel damaged. And some people killed, of varying ages".

superkartracer

8,959 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Maybe we are all still children deep down, being an adult is not as much fun as being a child ( the best years by far ) maybe thats another reason it's so sad, that special innocence taken and dragged into our dark adult reality.

Blue62

9,017 posts

154 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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singlecoil said:
It's not whether or not it should be reported that I am querying, it's the "22 children killed" headline, as if the adults don't count.
Can't see you can infer from the headlines that the adults don't count, it's just a fact that the majority of people find the deaths of children more shocking, for reasons adequately explained elsewhere in this thread. Can't understand why this would baffle you to the degree that it does, the deaths of children take precedence (in news terms) over adults all the time, whether it's Palestine, Homs, Rwanda or any other situation you care to think of, just as it should.

singlecoil

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34,037 posts

248 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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phil1979 said:
singlecoil said:
It's not whether or not it should be reported that I am querying, it's the "22 children killed" headline, as if the adults don't count.
What do you expect, though? Perhaps:

"Bus and tunnel damaged. And some people killed, of varying ages".
How about "28 people killed in coach crash"? Kids are people too, you know.

superkartracer

8,959 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

Many children die in Swiss crash
At least 28 people - including 22 children - die when a Belgian coach crashes in a road tunnel in Switzerland, police say.

phil1979

3,572 posts

217 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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singlecoil said:
phil1979 said:
singlecoil said:
It's not whether or not it should be reported that I am querying, it's the "22 children killed" headline, as if the adults don't count.
What do you expect, though? Perhaps:

"Bus and tunnel damaged. And some people killed, of varying ages".
How about "28 people killed in coach crash"? Kids are people too, you know.
This will sound harsh, but it's just not as tragic. People find it easier to reconcile adults being killed in their minds. Children, though - different story.

P.S. just seen your kitchens... I'm based just down the road from you, and in the not-so-distant future will be looking in to replacement units etc. Will have to give you a shout when the time comes.

Bullett

10,899 posts

186 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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It's a headline, 22 children is more shocking than 28 people or 6 adults. They want to grab your attention.

I never quite understood this either until I had kids. I know that's a cliché but it's true. The story recently of the journalist killed in Homs actually lead with her death, but it also featured a 2-3yo who was injured/killed at the same time. I got a lump in my throat over the kiddy (same age as my boy) but my reaction to the reported was indifferent. A tragic loss for sure but she put herself in that situation and knew the risks. The kid was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.


Blue62

9,017 posts

154 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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phil1979 said:
This will sound harsh, but it's just not as tragic. People find it easier to reconcile adults being killed in their minds. Children, though - different story.

P.S. just seen your kitchens... I'm based just down the road from you, and in the not-so-distant future will be looking in to replacement units etc. Will have to give you a shout when the time comes.
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superkartracer

8,959 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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hehe

Asterix

24,438 posts

230 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Blue62 said:
phil1979 said:
This will sound harsh, but it's just not as tragic. People find it easier to reconcile adults being killed in their minds. Children, though - different story.

P.S. just seen your kitchens... I'm based just down the road from you, and in the not-so-distant future will be looking in to replacement units etc. Will have to give you a shout when the time comes.
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That's an awesome divert from the original thread - next someone will be saying that this picture makes you wonder if you can fly all the way through the tunnels at Damavand Peak... just me then.


mattnunn

14,041 posts

163 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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singlecoil said:
It's not whether or not it should be reported that I am querying, it's the "22 children killed" headline, as if the adults don't count.
easy to just say you ain't got kids, you don't understand.

Perhaps if you put child in front of each of these words and see if your perception or feeling of the terms differ.

Soldier

Pornography

Killer

Rape

Star

phil1979

3,572 posts

217 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Blue62 said:
phil1979 said:
This will sound harsh, but it's just not as tragic. People find it easier to reconcile adults being killed in their minds. Children, though - different story.

P.S. just seen your kitchens... I'm based just down the road from you, and in the not-so-distant future will be looking in to replacement units etc. Will have to give you a shout when the time comes.
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Ha! Now that I re-read it together, there is a certain ill-advised emotional juxtaposition between to the two paragraphs! It wasn't intentional.

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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OP - really, nothing better to moan about?

singlecoil

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34,037 posts

248 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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So, everybody here happy with a headline that says "22 children killed" when in fact 28 people were killed. Are you all OK with that?

Getragdogleg

8,842 posts

185 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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I didn't get it until I had a rugrat of my own, now all my worry is saved for the little one because I can see her potential, see she needs protecting and I already have a lot of time invested to make sure she grows up and stays in the gene pool and contributes to the world.
The adults are just as important but children are not able to assess risk, nor could they extract themselves from this situation by personal choice, they were not driving, were not getting paid nor were they in charge of themselves, they were under the control and protection of the adults present in the coach, adults who were paid to be preventing harm to the kids while taking them too and from an activity designed to provide fun and life education.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

188 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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During a report, Radio 4 at lunchtime said 28 "children and adults", which I translated as "people".


singlecoil

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34,037 posts

248 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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Johnnytheboy said:
During a report, Radio 4 at lunchtime said 28 "children and adults", which I translated as "people".
Step in the right direction then. I was referring mostly to the BBC TV lunchtime news.

carmonk

7,910 posts

189 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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It's always been that way. It's an emotional response that arises from the evolutionary process. The young have yet to breed (apart from in Bolton) so in evolutionary terms they are more important than adults, who have made their contribution.

My favourite media story was back when Jill Dando was murdered and they interviewed some chubby mother who happened to be a neighbour, asking her what she thought about the whole affair. "It's terrible," she said, "children play in this street." Jesus Christ.