Plans to microchip dogs.

[dickymint]

I would go a step further and have the chip embedded in an ear tag - highly visible and can't migrate around the body! No ear tag and straight to the dog pound.

[DonkeyApple]

dickymint said:

I would go a step further and have the chip embedded in an ear tag - highly visible and can't migrate around the body! No ear tag and straight to the dog pound.

Then you can cash in selling Dior, Chanel and LVMH ear tags. Genius.

[thinfourth2]

dickymint said:

I would go a step further and have the chip embedded in an ear tag - highly visible and can't migrate around the body! No ear tag and straight to the dog pound.

Why should my dog be forced to have an ear tag because of some chav dog causing hassle.

Chavs won't get their dogs tagged and if it gets taken off them they won't give a fk as they will just get another one from the local puppy farm. I've heard of chavs putting their dog into a rescue centre as they were going on holiday for 2 weeks and picking up another puppy when they return.

If you are happy to have a barcode tattooed onto your forehead because of chavs then i'm happy for my dog to be forced to have an ear tag.

[MrFlat6]

thinfourth2 said:

dickymint said:

I would go a step further and have the chip embedded in an ear tag - highly visible and can't migrate around the body! No ear tag and straight to the dog pound.

Why should my dog be forced to have an ear tag because of some chav dog causing hassle.

Chavs won't get their dogs tagged and if it gets taken off them they won't give a fk as they will just get another one from the local puppy farm. I've heard of chavs putting their dog into a rescue centre as they were going on holiday for 2 weeks and picking up another puppy when they return.

If you are happy to have a barcode tattooed onto your forehead because of chavs then i'm happy for my dog to be forced to have an ear tag.

I already have a barcode equivalent - my fingerprint. Works very well...

Sorry if your dog ownership plans are slightly affected by a minority who break the law, that's life (and applies to lots of things)

[Jasandjules]

dickymint said:

I would go a step further and have the chip embedded in an ear tag - highly visible and can't migrate around the body! No ear tag and straight to the dog pound.

You can tattoo a puppy's ear. They do it in other countries so each dog pedigree is registered.

But again, NONE of this addresses the problem they claim needs solving....

[Morningside]

I can see exactly what will happen if/when it becomes law:

The VETs will put the cost up to £100 a dog to cash in (Bit like car insurance companies).
The injection / RFID kits will become available on eBay for £50 from China.
Unscrupulous backstreet breeders/places will start up cashing in on the 'fear' of owners losing their pets doing the job for £20 causing the dog untold pain in the process.
This will then need MORE legislation to register the people to do it.
Then dog owners will require compulsory insurance or dog licence (tax) to cover it all.
More dogs will get dumped cos Mr Chav dont wanna pay for it.

dickymint said:

I would go a step further and have the chip embedded in an ear tag - highly visible and can't migrate around the body! No ear tag and straight to the dog pound.

I would like to show you some greyhounds that have had their ears cut off that did contain the owners registration tattoo but they are NOT nice.

[thinfourth2]

MrFlat6 said:

I already have a barcode equivalent - my fingerprint. Works very well...

Sorry if your dog ownership plans are slightly affected by a minority who break the law, that's life (and applies to lots of things)

So the problem is

Someone is doing something that is already illegal

Solution

make something I am doing illegal

You must be a politician

[TwigtheWonderkid]

LordFlathead said:

So if you chip a Greyhound, how much faster does it go?

I used to race greyhounds......they beat me every time!

[dickymint]

Morningside said:

I can see exactly what will happen if/when it becomes law:

The VETs will put the cost up to £100 a dog to cash in (Bit like car insurance companies).
The injection / RFID kits will become available on eBay for £50 from China.
Unscrupulous backstreet breeders/places will start up cashing in on the 'fear' of owners losing their pets doing the job for £20 causing the dog untold pain in the process.
This will then need MORE legislation to register the people to do it.
Then dog owners will require compulsory insurance or dog licence (tax) to cover it all.
More dogs will get dumped cos Mr Chav dont wanna pay for it.

dickymint said:

I would go a step further and have the chip embedded in an ear tag - highly visible and can't migrate around the body! No ear tag and straight to the dog pound.

I would like to show you some greyhounds that have had their ears cut off that did contain the owners registration tattoo but they are NOT nice.

Good post. It's not very often I admit to being wrong. I retract my original opinion.

[sadoksevoli]

The national doggy database as delivered by HP/Crapita/IBM will no doubt cost hundreds of millions and not save a single postman's leg.
This won't stop chavs breeding and then chavs breeding dangerous dogs.
What this will do will breed another tentacle of our giant state behemoth to regulate (and fine) the law-abiding while abjectly failing in its original purpose to deter those who simply could not care less.
Nevertheless once we're up and running with mandatoty microchipping of puppies (given that the vast majority of responsible dog owners already have their dogs chipped), maybe we could start microchipping politicians and state bureaucrats so we can be alerted next time they have a brainwave so we can get them zapped before the idea spreads.

[dmulally]

We have to have our dogs chipped in Oz. Also, when a female is desexed she gets a little tat inside the ear.

The chip system is great. I have never seen any move around the body but can see how it would happen. You rock up to the vets and pew pew they have your details. It helps tracking down owners of lost dogs so I see it as very helpful.

It makes zero difference to backyard breeders.

[Bibbs]

dmulally said:

We have to have our dogs chipped in Oz. Also, when a female is desexed she gets a little tat inside the ear.

The males also get a tat. Amusingly it's a circle with a line through it.

"No balls? Yup, got the tattoo".

[Einion Yrth]

Bibbs said:

dmulally said:

We have to have our dogs chipped in Oz. Also, when a female is desexed she gets a little tat inside the ear.

The males also get a tat. Amusingly it's a circle with a line through it.

"No balls? Yup, got the tattoo".

Now me, I'd have thought the very apparent absence of knackers would have been evidence enough.

[dmulally]

Bibbs said:

dmulally said:

We have to have our dogs chipped in Oz. Also, when a female is desexed she gets a little tat inside the ear.

The males also get a tat. Amusingly it's a circle with a line through it.

"No balls? Yup, got the tattoo".

I never knew that. I'll have to check Rommel tonight. Best thing I ever did for him was to de-plum him. No more having his ass handed to him in the dog park since then.

Was a bit of bad karma though as not long after I did that I found out I had testicular cancer so mixed results.

[Bibbs]

Reading around, it's done by rescue/RSPCA centers when they neuter a dog.

We got ours from a rescue.

Sorry to hear about the Karma, but did you get yourself Neuticles?

[dmulally]

Bibbs said:

Reading around, it's done by rescue/RSPCA centers when they neuter a dog.

We got ours from a rescue.

Sorry to hear about the Karma, but did you get yourself Neuticles?

I did. But put in a new and lighter weight (although non functioning) one in it's place. With medicare rebates you can call me the six hundred dollar man.

[SGirl]

I suspect it might make more sense to make it illegal to take a dog out without a muzzle on. That way, you can see instantly who's not complying with the law, and it puts all dogs on an equal footing while they're out. At the moment, I know of several dogs that would be better off muzzled (because they chase small critters), but their owners won't muzzle them as it'd put them at a disadvantage if an aggressive dog were to have a go at them.

Our dog was chipped by the rescue we got her from, but if she hadn't been it would've been the first thing I'd have had done. Collars and ID tags can be taken off, tattoos can be cut off, but chips are a little bit harder to extract.

[Morningside]

^^^^ Muzzle a King Charles Spaniel? Daft idea, and it will also enforce the misplaced idea that ALL dogs are dangerous killers!

I see the local vets are now doing a chip that also contains a thermometer. Now that is a good idea and will allow easier reading without the dreaded thermometer.

[thinfourth2]

SGirl said:

I suspect it might make more sense to make it illegal to take a dog out without a muzzle on. That way, you can see instantly who's not complying with the law, and it puts all dogs on an equal footing while they're out. At the moment, I know of several dogs that would be better off muzzled (because they chase small critters), but their owners won't muzzle them as it'd put them at a disadvantage if an aggressive dog were to have a go at them.

Our dog was chipped by the rescue we got her from, but if she hadn't been it would've been the first thing I'd have had done. Collars and ID tags can be taken off, tattoos can be cut off, but chips are a little bit harder to extract.

So of course you muzzle your dog at all times.

We don't and not once have they mildly killed anyone.

Eaten a few bunny wabbits but no postmen or children.



And yet again its the good old solution of that group over there are doing something illegal so to stop them we shall force an entirely different group not doing anything illegal or causing any hassle to follow some new laws which the group who are causing the problem will completely ignore.

WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE fkING LAWS

[dandarez]

MrFlat6 said:

I already have a barcode equivalent - my fingerprint. Works very well...

Sorry if your dog ownership plans are slightly affected by a minority who break the law, that's life (and applies to lots of things)

It's not dog 'ownership' that's affected, it's the dog itself!
Having to have something it has no say in stuck in its neck, which can very well move around its body, with associated risk, no matter how small.
All because of a minority as you put it.

Well, if it's a minority causing the problem, bloody well 'deal' with the minority!