Rodney King dead

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Negative Creep

25,012 posts

228 months

Sunday 17th June 2012
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johnnyboy101 said:
I find it ridiculous people are making comments about what he did on the night he got beaten, is that relevant? Did he deserve it? It's totally irrelevant and it just shows how foolish some of you are that you seem to be finding some sort of justification for what happened.

Wake up and realise we live in a society that has terrible history regarding black people and believe it or not back then especially these type of incidents occur more often in these countries with the minorities. Saddening to see the reactions, at the death of someone who changed the world for the better, tells me a lot about the people who are commenting.
Oh, I'm sorry, I guess you knew this wonderful martyr personally so are in a position to comment on his life. Clearly he wasn't just a low life criminal who ended up with a very nice payday for being the victim of Police brutality. That time he was convicted of robbery and beating a shopkeeper with an iron bar was just because he was black. Or the jail sentence for running over his wife. Or the second drink conviction. They would have never charged a white guy with that.

Do you feel the black community was blameless for the riots? That there are no racists amongst them? That it was all the fault of those evil rich white guys? That we should still be apologising for slavery?

There are white criminals and there are black criminals. Difference is only one can claim they're being discriminated against when things don't go their way.

Countdown

40,068 posts

197 months

Sunday 17th June 2012
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Negative Creep said:
There are white criminals and there are black criminals. Difference is only one can claim they're being discriminated against when things don't go their way.
How many white criminals have been beaten by 4 black cops?

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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Dixie68 said:
You do realise that two of them were sent to jail don't you?
I think I'm right in saying all of them were acquitted at first and two of them were sent to prison after the riots?

johnnyboy101

871 posts

192 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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Negative Creep said:
Oh, I'm sorry, I guess you knew this wonderful martyr personally so are in a position to comment on his life. Clearly he wasn't just a low life criminal who ended up with a very nice payday for being the victim of Police brutality. That time he was convicted of robbery and beating a shopkeeper with an iron bar was just because he was black. Or the jail sentence for running over his wife. Or the second drink conviction. They would have never charged a white guy with that.

Do you feel the black community was blameless for the riots? That there are no racists amongst them? That it was all the fault of those evil rich white guys? That we should still be apologising for slavery?

There are white criminals and there are black criminals. Difference is only one can claim they're being discriminated against when things don't go their way.
O yes what a genius you are claiming that if they had recorded a white guy getting beaten nobody would of got charged, you my 'friend' are delusional.

Clearly you are missing the point what he did before and after was wrong but largely irrelevant. You have been unable to see it was effectively a racist attack my the police, I would love for you to justify them saying 'We are going to kill you, n***er', they nearly killed the guy the difference here being these are the Police people who are supposed to be the law.

If you can I would advise you to remove that chip from your shoulder.

Zaxxon

4,057 posts

161 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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Police in L.A. have asked for calm after gangs of black youths attacked 30 innocent swimming pools in retaliation for Rodney King's death.    

johnnyboy101

871 posts

192 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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Zaxxon said:
Police in L.A. have asked for calm after gangs of black youths attacked 30 innocent swimming pools in retaliation for Rodney King's death.    
Looks like this has turned into the 'bring up black people attacking other people' thread. Well done, you have proved so much.

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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God some people need a history lesson.

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

244 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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johnnyboy101 said:
wrong but largely irrelevant.
Which bits were relevant?

johnnyboy101

871 posts

192 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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martin84 said:
God some people need a history lesson.
+1

Sad really

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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johnnyboy101 said:
+1

Sad really
On the positive side it shows how far we've come as a country. It must be hard for many people who live in the UK to understand the sheer scale of racial issues which existed in the early 90s and before in the US - and still exist today, black President or otherwise. For people to think things like the 92 LA Riots happened for no good reason then those people obviously live in a country where these problems largely don't exist.

Still need a history lesson though.

Edited by martin84 on Monday 18th June 00:29

Negative Creep

25,012 posts

228 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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johnnyboy101 said:
O yes what a genius you are claiming that if they had recorded a white guy getting beaten nobody would of got charged, you my 'friend' are delusional.
No I'm not. If it was a white person they still would have been charged, it's just that a section of their community wouldn't have gone on a rampage afterwards. Oh, and it's "would have" by the way, no "would of". It's a shame you don't want to be my friend, although if it make you feel better I'll let you beat me up for $3.8 million.


johnnyboy101 said:
Clearly you are missing the point what he did before and after was wrong but largely irrelevant. You have been unable to see it was effectively a racist attack my the police, I would love for you to justify them saying 'We are going to kill you, n***er', they nearly killed the guy the difference here being these are the Police people who are supposed to be the law.

If you can I would advise you to remove that chip from your shoulder.
I'm not justifying the Police actions, even after he physically resisted and refused to lay down after being threatened with a Taser. I can't find a source for that quote though, and the video itself doesn't pick up what was said. Clearly you still feel he's a noble figure , instead of a criminal whose cause was jumped on by the likes of Jesse Jackson and other "leaders" who do race relations more harm than good.

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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I can't believe those riots were 20 years ago.

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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Negative Creep said:
No I'm not. If it was a white person they still would have been charged, it's just that a section of their community wouldn't have gone on a rampage afterwards.
You do know how dumb that sounded, right?

Negative Creep

25,012 posts

228 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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martin84 said:
Negative Creep said:
No I'm not. If it was a white person they still would have been charged, it's just that a section of their community wouldn't have gone on a rampage afterwards.
You do know how dumb that sounded, right?
Do you believe the riots would have happened if King was white or Asian?

Oakey

27,610 posts

217 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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martin84 said:
On the positive side it shows how far we've come as a country. It must be hard for many people who live in the UK to understand the sheer scale of racial issues which existed in the early 90s and before in the US - and still exist today, black President or otherwise. For people to think things like the 92 LA Riots happened for no good reason then those people obviously live in a country where these problems largely don't exist.

Still need a history lesson though.

Edited by martin84 on Monday 18th June 00:29
Am I missing something? Didn't we just have rioting after the death of a 'gangster'?

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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Negative Creep said:
Do you believe the riots would have happened if King was white or Asian?
No. Of course not. Obviously. Duh. One glance at a history book would fking tell you why.

Oakey said:
Am I missing something? Didn't we just have rioting after the death of a 'gangster'?
We had riots after the death of a black person, but not because of the death of a black person. There's a difference.

Oakey

27,610 posts

217 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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That was just the excuse, for those people to riot, right?

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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Oakey said:
That was just the excuse, for those people to riot, right?
Not really. People didn't riot in Birmingham because someone got shot in London. When they did collar a few of the scumbags the best 'reasons' they could give were mainly about how society doesn't respect them and 'theres no jobs out there innit.' I didn't hear any of them say they stole that Plasma because a black person got shot 200 miles away.

Dixie68

3,091 posts

188 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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martin84 said:
I think I'm right in saying all of them were acquitted at first and two of them were sent to prison after the riots?
You are correct and I've added a line to my original post so I don't look like an apologist for their actions.

Oakey

27,610 posts

217 months

Monday 18th June 2012
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martin84 said:
Not really. People didn't riot in Birmingham because someone got shot in London. When they did collar a few of the scumbags the best 'reasons' they could give were mainly about how society doesn't respect them and 'theres no jobs out there innit.' I didn't hear any of them say they stole that Plasma because a black person got shot 200 miles away.
That was morons jumping on the rioting bandwagon after the Duggan incident?