Is this really what it has come to....

[GarryA]

How the fk do they cope in Afghanistan if they go this mental over not getting a cup of tea?

[richinleeds]

GarryA said:

How the fk do they cope in Afghanistan if they go this mental over not getting a cup of tea?

Yeah thank's for that.

There is no law that say's a squaddie can't order an alcoholic drink whilst in uniform, there is for the police because if they are in uniform they are on duty squaddie's on the other hand can be off duty and still in uniform. If we go by some of the thinking on here then you couldn't have a mess do at a civilian pub/club.

[anonymous-user]

it would be funny to see what would happen if this was in the us.
funeral or not, utter a55holes. as if nco's go getting in trouble in dress uniform

[Dixie68]

GarryA said:

Off to work, but here is the RAF take on it, I am told it is a rule that covers all three forces,

Occasions on which uniform is not to be worn:

b. Visits to licensed premises (including when not consuming alcohol), except when specifically approved by the Chain of Command.

You are quite correct that this is in RAF Queen's Regs, para. 0113, but above in para. 0110 it says

"e. All of the occasions outlined below can be changed at the discretion of local commanders, taking into account, for example, security assessments and appropriate single-Service guidance. Security guidelines for the wearing of uniform in public are promulgated in JSP 440 Defence Manual of Security Part 7 Sect 1 Chap 7."

I concede that it's entirely possible that some base commanders have stuck to the letter of the law, just not on any of the bases where I was stationed, thankfully.

[colonel c]

Reminded me of this:


I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.


Rudyard Kipling.

Full poem

[munky]

thehawk said:

Eric Mc said:

Of course, soldiers wear different types of uniforms depending on what they are doing. If they were attending a funeral they were probably wearing a dress uniform and not on official duty. But bar staff would be pretty ignorant of such distinctions.

I believe you are wrong on that, certainly when I was in the forces you were essentially 'on-duty' at all times, even when not in uniform, and certainly if you were wearing any type of uniform at all it means you are subject to the regulations. One of which is not being allowed into bars.

Even if that is true (and a RM commando friend says it isn't; indeed I've been to a pub with him and 5 other weirdos in uniform following the "City Salute" a couple of years ago) surely it's not up to the pub to be concerned about that? It's not their job to enforce any employer's drinking ban. Some pubs and bars do have a policy of not serving armed forces in uniform, but it's their policy.

[iphonedyou]

MOTORVATOR said:

Just to take the edge of the pallbearers and attending a funeral.

"during rehearsals"

"couldn't come in as you're in fatigues"

So pallbearer and funeral is irrelevant to the story in my mind. If you wanted a cup of tea go to the cafe.

In your (very small) mind alone, thankfully.

[anonymous-user]

Why are people making this an anti forces thing?

The pub/bar has a simple rule that they don't want people in there in ANY uniform, that's up to them isn't it?

[XCP]

richinleeds said:

Yeah thank's for that.

There is no law that say's a squaddie can't order an alcoholic drink whilst in uniform, there is for the police because if they are in uniform they are on duty squaddie's on the other hand can be off duty and still in uniform. If we go by some of the thinking on here then you couldn't have a mess do at a civilian pub/club.

Police can be in uniform and on or off duty.
I have attended services and funerals off duty, but in uniform. And bought alcohol afterwards.