14yo boy who raped 4yo girl let off by judge.
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TheHeretic said:
superkartracer said:
My god, they have started already! The hordes of 12-14 year old toddler rapists are on the march! Hide the kids! Build bunkers! Well done, you are officially hysterical. st happens all the time, and snit happens get stty punishments all the time. However that does not mean everyone should be scared 24/7. Aids said:
What a disgusting little scrote! If I had carried out an act like that when I was was 14, my dad would have killed me literally!!
And this my friend is the problem! No respect for authority, no fear of consequences and no parents who are willing to show a bit of tough love.My dad wouldnt have killed me...he would have used the cane as a regular antibiotic and made life miserable for the next year by taking away every material possession, restriction of freedom etc...it would have been a bd prison at home!!!
Another let off then rapes more... THEN locked up.
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/n...
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/n...
superkartracer said:
I'm not scared, but it took me 2 seconds to find another case in May where the rapist was let off. What will happen is people will dish their own justice. And no not *hordes* of kids doing this but a few others thinking they'll simply get a slapped wrist is too many, that simple really.
You think there are people out there, young boys, who are diligently reading the papers in the vain hope of spotting a rape case with a lenient sentencing, so they can get the go-ahead? I don't think any criminal goes ahead with their deed without thinking they will get away with it. otolith said:
I don't think they are weighing up the consequences at all. They either don't think they will be caught or they just don't think.
Absolutely. These people will do these things regardless of sentence. The leniency of punishment does need addressing, but to think this is a 'message' to would be teenage rapists is ridiculous.bobbylondonuk said:
And this my friend is the problem! No respect for authority, no fear of consequences and no parents who are willing to show a bit of tough love.
My dad wouldnt have killed me...he would have used the cane as a regular antibiotic and made life miserable for the next year by taking away every material possession, restriction of freedom etc...it would have been a bd prison at home!!!
Great post! Well put!My dad wouldnt have killed me...he would have used the cane as a regular antibiotic and made life miserable for the next year by taking away every material possession, restriction of freedom etc...it would have been a bd prison at home!!!
TheHeretic said:
otolith said:
I don't think they are weighing up the consequences at all. They either don't think they will be caught or they just don't think.
Absolutely. These people will do these things regardless of sentence. The leniency of punishment does need addressing, but to think this is a 'message' to would be teenage rapists is ridiculous.ETA: Ok, maybe not literally but he should have had some sort of corporal punishment - I reckon that would have more of an effect to make them think twice about doing it again.
TheHeretic said:
superkartracer said:
I'm not scared, but it took me 2 seconds to find another case in May where the rapist was let off. What will happen is people will dish their own justice. And no not *hordes* of kids doing this but a few others thinking they'll simply get a slapped wrist is too many, that simple really.
You think there are people out there, young boys, who are diligently reading the papers in the vain hope of spotting a rape case with a lenient sentencing, so they can get the go-ahead? I don't think any criminal goes ahead with their deed without thinking they will get away with it. I assure you these kids know exactly what they're doing, a 14 year old today is the equivalent of an 18 year old 15 years ago, things have changed.
Edited by superkartracer on Thursday 5th July 14:10
Regiment said:
Surely if there is an issue where a 14 year old boy has become corrupted by porn enough that a judge justifies that as a cause for the boy to rape a 4 year old little girl, the parents of said boy should be punished for allowing him to access the porn.
Maybe the judge has been corrupted by porn and thinks this is normal behavour, imagine being that little girl or her parents, the boy should punished severly.maybe locked up in a cell with the judge!
superkartracer said:
So you don't think theres are issue with the UK's youth? when some kid slaps the face or kicks my mate ( Grammar school teacher ) then simply laughs and says you can't touch me, there's not a serious issue here.
I assure you these kids know exactly what they're doing, a 14 year old today is the equivalent of an 18 year old 15 years ago, things have changed.
No, I don't think kids are any different to when I was young, or when anyone else was young. As I said, punishments need to be less lenient, no issue there, but when you were at school, we're kids bds? Did you have naught got kids, who were always the ones who were on the receiving end of a cane, or a ruler? I received the ruler a few times, and there were kids who had it all the time. It seemingly didn't stop them being bds, as they were the kids who had it all the time. I assure you these kids know exactly what they're doing, a 14 year old today is the equivalent of an 18 year old 15 years ago, things have changed.
Bad kids will always be bad kids, and good kids will be good kids. The ruler never made a blind bit of difference. Parents did.
And thats what i used to think until you actually start taking to people that do this professionally, both teacher friends moved into other careers as that problematic .
Agree it's parents but the law also , you slap a child these days you face assault charges.
http://www.haywards-solicitors.co.uk/newsletters/s...
So i get 5 years for smacking but this 14 year kid that raped said 4 year old is free to do it again? with little in the way of punishment, so he's left thinking * can i do it again * and he most prob will sadly.
Funny old world eh..
Agree it's parents but the law also , you slap a child these days you face assault charges.
http://www.haywards-solicitors.co.uk/newsletters/s...
So i get 5 years for smacking but this 14 year kid that raped said 4 year old is free to do it again? with little in the way of punishment, so he's left thinking * can i do it again * and he most prob will sadly.
Funny old world eh..
superkartracer said:
And thats what i used to think until you actually start taking to people that do this professionally, both teacher friends moved into other careers as that problematic .
Agree it's parents but the law also , you slap a child these days you face assault charges.
http://www.haywards-solicitors.co.uk/newsletters/s...
So i get 5 years for smacking but this 14 year kid that raped a 4 year go is let off?
Funny old world eh..
You are veering wildly from your original post I responded to, which was Agree it's parents but the law also , you slap a child these days you face assault charges.
http://www.haywards-solicitors.co.uk/newsletters/s...
So i get 5 years for smacking but this 14 year kid that raped a 4 year go is let off?
Funny old world eh..
You said:
So the message to 14 years old then, watch porn and your free to rape little girls?, nice.
Its a verys sad story that focuses (my) mind on the wider issue of consequences.
There are none for the children that inflict worng doing on others.
There are severe ones for adults that inflict anything upon them.
Now as adults, we of course should and must find ways to control, direct and educate without violence and/or torment....
But, children today are VERY different from children of yesteryear, they have access to a massive amount of information, they udnerstand the law and exploit the gaps FAR more....even the responsible parents are now limited in what they can and cannot do to control and/or discipline their children.
There is no deterrent in a man in a wig saying "You're naughty, you are, now off you go ya little scamp"
Will it lead to masses of similar cases? I hope not.
Are there many more 14 year olds consuming porn in ways far easier than it was a decade or so ago? do 14 year olds, hear about national court cases about other 14 year olds?
Parents do need to take responsibility, but to have a judicial/teaching/policing system that backs them up would be useful....one that has consequences.
There are none for the children that inflict worng doing on others.
There are severe ones for adults that inflict anything upon them.
Now as adults, we of course should and must find ways to control, direct and educate without violence and/or torment....
But, children today are VERY different from children of yesteryear, they have access to a massive amount of information, they udnerstand the law and exploit the gaps FAR more....even the responsible parents are now limited in what they can and cannot do to control and/or discipline their children.
There is no deterrent in a man in a wig saying "You're naughty, you are, now off you go ya little scamp"
Will it lead to masses of similar cases? I hope not.
Are there many more 14 year olds consuming porn in ways far easier than it was a decade or so ago? do 14 year olds, hear about national court cases about other 14 year olds?
Parents do need to take responsibility, but to have a judicial/teaching/policing system that backs them up would be useful....one that has consequences.
superkartracer said:
TheHeretic said:
superkartracer said:
I'm not scared, but it took me 2 seconds to find another case in May where the rapist was let off. What will happen is people will dish their own justice. And no not *hordes* of kids doing this but a few others thinking they'll simply get a slapped wrist is too many, that simple really.
You think there are people out there, young boys, who are diligently reading the papers in the vain hope of spotting a rape case with a lenient sentencing, so they can get the go-ahead? I don't think any criminal goes ahead with their deed without thinking they will get away with it. I assure you these kids know exactly what they're doing, a 14 year old today is the equivalent of an 18 year old 15 years ago, things have changed.
Edited by superkartracer on Thursday 5th July 14:10
In a grammar school they'd likely be expelled if they hit a teacher. In a comprehensive I'd guess the teracher would get a month off to put their feet up on full pay.
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