Tories to allow councils to set speed limits.

Tories to allow councils to set speed limits.

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martin84

5,366 posts

155 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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I remember the Police saying a while ago they will not enforce any speed limit below 30mph. There's a few 20 zones near me, for like 700 yards past a school. When I drove past on saturday I stayed at 30 for the whole thing and nobody died.

Interesting how the Tories stock has fallen so low on here now, are we finally accepting they're actually no different to Labour?

s2art

18,939 posts

255 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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martin84 said:
I remember the Police saying a while ago they will not enforce any speed limit below 30mph. There's a few 20 zones near me, for like 700 yards past a school. When I drove past on saturday I stayed at 30 for the whole thing and nobody died.

Interesting how the Tories stock has fallen so low on here now, are we finally accepting they're actually no different to Labour?
The Tories are doing exactly what they said they would; giving localism more power and decentralising power.
Of course this means we are going to have to take more care about who gets elected at council level.

martin84

5,366 posts

155 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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s2art said:
The Tories are doing exactly what they said they would; giving localism more power and decentralising power.
Of course this means we are going to have to take more care about who gets elected at council level.
Except for when the local Government does something the Government don't like or when the local Government does something the local people don't like. See Kings Lynn Incinerator saga for evidence. That was a 'local issue' but now suddenly it's not rolleyes

The localism plan is about shifting responsibility elsewhere. Cameron just wants to be able to say 'don't blame us, its all the councils fault.' That's all this is about. Like they give 'more power' to councils as they give them less money. A major step for devolved Government - the power to provide no services.

Localism has been rejected by the public. Cameron's idea of elected mayors went down like a lead balloon. Council election turnout was very low this year. People don't care about Governance at council level because this is a small country and the central Government should be capable of handling most things.

Speed limits are a matter for a joined up central Government policy based on expert advice from the Police and impartial data analysts. Speed limits are not a matter for any tom-dick who gets to be a councillor who will pander to every moaning old dear and Brake campaign. Local Government should be in charge of flower baskets and park benches - nothing else.

How long will the Tories remain so keen to give power to local councils while Labour keep winning those council elections?

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

188 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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martin84 said:
I remember the Police saying a while ago they will not enforce any speed limit below 30mph. There's a few 20 zones near me, for like 700 yards past a school. When I drove past on saturday I stayed at 30 for the whole thing and nobody died.

Interesting how the Tories stock has fallen so low on here now, are we finally accepting they're actually no different to Labour?
At least they've not pressed ahead with Labour's wildly unpopular road pricing plans. Still the best of a bad bunch as far as I'm concerned.

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

159 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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martin84 said:
Cameron just wants to be able to say 'don't blame us, its all the councils fault.' That's all this is about.
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martin84 said:
How long will the Tories remain so keen to give power to local councils while Labour keep winning those council elections?
If your theory is right, Cameron would prefer to blame a labour council than a tory one do you not think?

martin84

5,366 posts

155 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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Johnnytheboy said:
At least they've not pressed ahead with Labour's wildly unpopular road pricing plans. Still the best of a bad bunch as far as I'm concerned.
It's worth noting Labour didn't press ahead with Labour's wildly unpopular road pricing plans either - once the degree of its unpopularity became clear.