The Boris thing?
Discussion
wl606 said:
grumbledoak said:
Not being a lying hypocrite is a big plus to me. I'd happily have him as PM.
Er, he was sacked from the Shadow Cabinet for lying. he acts the fool and people like him for it therefore somehow think he is not a liar or t
t because he makes them smile.its jade goody and diana all over again.
OzzyR1 said:
sday12 said:
The Guardian, renowned for it's unbiased views and not at all left-wing, anti-Tory status and use of journalists trying to promote their own books.Oh no, wait...
Pistonheads, know for its tolerance, liberalism and socially cohesive attitudes.
Oh, no, wait.
OzzyR1 said:
sday12 said:
The Guardian, renowned for it's unbiased views and not at all left-wing, anti-Tory status and use of journalists trying to promote their own books.Oh no, wait...
motco said:
OzzyR1 said:
sday12 said:
The Guardian, renowned for it's unbiased views and not at all left-wing, anti-Tory status and use of journalists trying to promote their own books.Oh no, wait...
sday12 said:
I think he'll turnout like 'Dave':all positive nice guy spin, but ultimately ugly Tory policies. When you look under the funny HIGNFY guy, it's just not that funny, or working.
Let's face it, all politicians are like that. When dealing with a popularity contest it's the most likeable public persona that wins, and that is Boris.sday12 said:
It's called a point of view. Please, take time to read it.
Pistonheads, know for its tolerance, liberalism and socially cohesive attitudes.
Oh, no, wait.
I have read it thanks.Pistonheads, know for its tolerance, liberalism and socially cohesive attitudes.
Oh, no, wait.
Just see it for the piece it is, a typical Guardian report adhering to their readership. I could post a Boris arse-licking article from the Torygraph but won't bother, you have to take all media at face-value and realise that they are spinning it for the people who buy their papers.
For what it's worth, I have no real problem with Boris as the alternatives in the two main parties are equally as dire if not worse. Would prefer a decent, charismatic and honest PM to any of the above though, which includes Boris, Cameron, Millband and the majority of the cabinet and shadow-cabinet.
Maybe more a view on the state of British politics and those representing it at the moment than anything else.
Edited by OzzyR1 on Sunday 5th August 12:34
davepoth said:
sday12 said:
I think he'll turnout like 'Dave':all positive nice guy spin, but ultimately ugly Tory policies. When you look under the funny HIGNFY guy, it's just not that funny, or working.
Let's face it, all politicians are like that. When dealing with a popularity contest it's the most likeable public persona that wins, and that is Boris.He has the advantage in that some people (more than likely those sub 30) will vote for him purely because he is Boris.
davepoth said:
Let's face it, all politicians are like that. When dealing with a popularity contest it's the most likeable public persona that wins, and that is Boris.
it should not be that way though should it?in 1997 I asked my mrs who she was voting for. she said Blair I asked why.
her answer" he wears nice suits"
wanting boris for PM because he makes you smile is exactly the same thing.
Edited by Pesty on Sunday 5th August 12:44
If you are going to have someone lie to you and make the rules, it might as well be someone with a sense of humour.
He would still be in exactly the same position as Cameron is if he were PM today, and no one would be cheering him if he was making PM's decisions and not in his current middle of the road job as Mayor.
He would still be in exactly the same position as Cameron is if he were PM today, and no one would be cheering him if he was making PM's decisions and not in his current middle of the road job as Mayor.
Pesty said:
wl606 said:
grumbledoak said:
Not being a lying hypocrite is a big plus to me. I'd happily have him as PM.
Er, he was sacked from the Shadow Cabinet for lying. he acts the fool and people like him for it therefore somehow think he is not a liar or t
t because he makes them smile.its jade goody and diana all over again.
Slight diversion off-topic but wondering what the outcome would be if we offered the PM of this country a salary of say £50 million. This might attract some of the big business brains in the country to apply their attention.
I can see a lot of benefits to a good businessman running the UK as a business but also a lot of pitfalls.
If we assume they have to maintain a standard of good healthcare, welfare for the unemployed, disabled etc, schooling, defence and all the rest.
I would think that a decent business brain might cut out a hell of a lot of the red-tape and middle-management, this would lead to even greater unemployment as those civil servants lost their jobs, particularly in the north where some cities are 60%+ employed by the Govt.
That obviously wouldn't go well and would lead to an even greater north-south divide.
Maybe our trade/exports would pick up though as a businessman PM might cut rates to make it favourable to manufacture again in the UK.
Who knows, certainly not me.
The position of PM will be a poisoned chalice to whoever takes it in the next 15 years imho, they can do no right.
grumbledoak said:
Not being a lying hypocrite is a big plus to me. I'd happily have him as PM.
Mmmm... clearly you don't know much about him then...I think the Boris appeal is a reflection of the contempt people have for politicians.
People find him a comic character and actually vote for him for the comedy value.
Sure he's probably chocolate teapot useful and just as twofaced and self serving as all the others, but at least we could have a laugh at him!
M.
Pesty said:
hes been an mp before and what did he do then?
Here's his maiden speech in the commons. Boris said:
Michael Heseltine is a hard act to follow, so I approach this moment with much the same sense of self-doubt as Simba in "The Lion King".
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/2001/ju...Edited by davepoth on Sunday 5th August 14:36
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