Kirstie Allsop Twitter abuse - bandwagon jumping?
Discussion
Ari said:
It would appear that Kirsty does have a fan after all...! 
Or maybe a relative...
Or maybe a relative...
Personally, I dont think online bullying like this should be ignored, wether the complainant is a 'celebrity' or not. People should not be forced off twitter, forums, or any other format. People that say 'just ignore it' are missing the point.
Personally I tink people that use twitter to boost their profile are really sad, but if they choose to do it, they should not be abused by vile little idiots that are driven by jealousy and hatred.
Some of the comments already about Kirsty o this thread are less than appealing, and I would suggest provide grounds for complaint. PH has rules, and they are often not applied.
TTmonkey said:
why should she?
Would you 'run away' from this kind abuse? Would you stop using PH for instance if someone was abusive to you?
If you want/need to self promote, you have to accept that some people will not accept your view and may equally exercise their right to a contrary opinion.Would you 'run away' from this kind abuse? Would you stop using PH for instance if someone was abusive to you?
If you cannot stand the heat...
This will be even more pertinent when you are setting yourself up as an "expert". Big yourself up, watch for people trying to cut you down. How you handle that speaks more about you than your "tweets".
Threats to minors, death threats etc should be jumped on. The rest? It's about time we all grew a spine and rolled with negative criticism. You can't be liked by everyone no matter how many Facebook "friends" or "followers" you have. Get over yourselves and stop wasting police time. If you think you're being libelled, spend your own cash and sue their arses. Otherwise, MTFU.
Here's what makes me laugh, go to the police and tell them the local Mr Big is threatening to kill you over a drugs debt that has nothing to do with you and they'll say "Sorry, we can't do anything about it, until he puts a finger on you we're powerless" (then on the flipside they come at you with "he might want you to work the debt off, in which case we'll do a deal where you feed us back intel"). But call someone on the internet some nasty names and they're all over that like a f
king rash, they can't wait to prosecute someone. It's absurd.
king rash, they can't wait to prosecute someone. It's absurd. 
TTmonkey said:
Personally, I dont think online bullying like this should be ignored, wether the complainant is a 'celebrity' or not. People should not be forced off twitter, forums, or any other format. People that say 'just ignore it' are missing the point.
Personally I tink people that use twitter to boost their profile are really sad, but if they choose to do it, they should not be abused by vile little idiots that are driven by jealousy and hatred.
Some of the comments already about Kirsty o this thread are less than appealing, and I would suggest provide grounds for complaint. PH has rules, and they are often not applied.
And how do you define it? If I go on Kirstie's Twitter account and say she smells, is that enough for a police complaint? How about she's got a big nose? Police action called for? How about if someone goes on mine and says I'm cross eyed? Can I expect send for the boys in blue? Indeed I do have a Facebook account. And I choose who to "friend" and therefore who see's/can post on my "wall". Now if I choose simply to open that up to the world, can I really expect the police to deal with anything I decide I don't like?
Surely the logical thing for me to do is simply delete an offensive post and ban the poster?
In this instance particularly, the whole thing smacks of "get me in the papers, I'm faaaamous!!" Especially as the police have said they've received no complaints.
Ari said:
I do wonder whether an individual would get the police time that a celebrity would. I mean, how would they possibly find the time?
And how do you define it? If I go on Kirstie's Twitter account and say she smells, is that enough for a police complaint? How about she's got a big nose? Police action called for? How about if someone goes on mine and says I'm cross eyed? Can I expect send for the boys in blue? Indeed I do have a Facebook account. And I choose who to "friend" and therefore who see's/can post on my "wall". Now if I choose simply to open that up to the world, can I really expect the police to deal with anything I decide I don't like?
Surely the logical thing for me to do is simply delete an offensive post and ban the poster?
In this instance particularly, the whole thing smacks of "get me in the papers, I'm faaaamous!!" Especially as the police have said they've received no complaints.
Here's how it works.And how do you define it? If I go on Kirstie's Twitter account and say she smells, is that enough for a police complaint? How about she's got a big nose? Police action called for? How about if someone goes on mine and says I'm cross eyed? Can I expect send for the boys in blue? Indeed I do have a Facebook account. And I choose who to "friend" and therefore who see's/can post on my "wall". Now if I choose simply to open that up to the world, can I really expect the police to deal with anything I decide I don't like?
Surely the logical thing for me to do is simply delete an offensive post and ban the poster?
In this instance particularly, the whole thing smacks of "get me in the papers, I'm faaaamous!!" Especially as the police have said they've received no complaints.
You go on their profile and say something nasty. This causes that person 'distress'. At least that's what they'll claim. Then you do it a second time. This causes them further 'distress' at which point the police can arrest you under the Harassment Act. The CPS will pursue it as well because they have the evidence (the posts you made) and because, when you were arrested, you most likely admitted in your statement (under the mistaken belief that honesty is the best policy) that you did it. The CPS won't drop it because it's an easy case for them to win so before you know it you're up in court and getting your criminal conviction.
Whilst I agree that Kirty's complaint seems pretty minor and maybe more about self promotion than anything else, its still not right to ignore stuff like this. You can be sure these people are not only targetting Kirty, most likly they are either doing or going to do worse, if there is no response.
I hate the whole idea of twitter and how many people use it for self promotion, but its still not right to simply ignore a situation such as this. Agreed that maybe there should be les expensive ways of dealing with things than involving our legal system though. Perhaps the likes of Twitter should take a more proactive stance when someone raises a complaint? Name and shame or similar.
I also find it titally distasteful when on this kind of forum when someone comes on and condones the activity just because they dont like the person thats taking a stand.
I hate the whole idea of twitter and how many people use it for self promotion, but its still not right to simply ignore a situation such as this. Agreed that maybe there should be les expensive ways of dealing with things than involving our legal system though. Perhaps the likes of Twitter should take a more proactive stance when someone raises a complaint? Name and shame or similar.
I also find it titally distasteful when on this kind of forum when someone comes on and condones the activity just because they dont like the person thats taking a stand.
It's absolutely right to ignore a situation like this. Partly because there simply isn't the manpower to look at, judge, and then prosecute posters of every single mean comment on the Internet, but mainly because any action or consideration beyond simply banning the poster and deleting the comments is exactly what the poster wants.
Just like any bully, deny them any reaction whatsoever, and they're powerless.
Just like any bully, deny them any reaction whatsoever, and they're powerless.
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