Free breakfasts for school kids?
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the scum parents who don't feed their kids are beyond help, they need punishing but will learn nothing, the problem is they will no doubt take out any visit from the state on their poor kids. the solution is pretty simple and timely. free school breakfasts for all with a corresponding drop in child benefit to pay for it.
jimxms said:
I would have thought there would be an age limit to the free breakfast thing? Pretty much like the free milk+snack kids get at school for the first few years. After which, you can either opt to pay for your child to continue receiving said milk+snack or not.
Local Rag said:
Free breakfasts for all primary schoolchildren in Blackpool will begin in January. It is hoped the three-month pilot scheme will become permanent and will spread to secondary schools too.
http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/local-news/education/providing-a-good-start-to-the-school-day-1-5126046Oakey said:
It's worse really when you think about it, it's indoctrinating youngsters into the Labour mentality from an early age. Right from the off they'll now grow up with the belief that kids will be fed breakfast in school and it's not something they'll have to worry about doing themselves in the future and before long it'll be seen as another entitlement that will be difficult to remove.
Any evidence for this? I had (like all my contemporaries) had free school milk, and yet I have managed to grow up without developing the notion that milk is what you get for free from school.Oakey said:
Oh, and just to add, Labour leader Simon Blackburn wants to bring this into High Schools as well as introduce free lunches for all!
And?I'd rather spend the money on this than Trident, TBH.
Oakey said:
See anyone who whines about Thatcher 'stealing' their milk?
Did I do that? No. So it's a bit of a non sequitur.Oakey said:
ETA: You understand I'm referring to the kids whose parents don't bother feeding them and now have an excuse to continue not bothering to feed them, right?
I'm all for having people take responsibility for their decisions and life choices, but you've got to accept that children can't choose their parents and, where possible and practical, shouldn't have to suffer unnecessarily as a consequence of their parents' poor decisions.And anyway, if history is anything to go by, these breakfasts will consist of sawdust and eyeball sausages, plastic beans and reconstituted-from-styrofoam chips, all costing a grand total of 5p per child.
CommanderJameson said:
I'm all for having people take responsibility for their decisions and life choices, but you've got to accept that children can't choose their parents and, where possible and practical, shouldn't have to suffer unnecessarily as a consequence of their parents' poor decisions.
And anyway, if history is anything to go by, these breakfasts will consist of sawdust and eyeball sausages, plastic beans and reconstituted-from-styrofoam chips, all costing a grand total of 5p per child.
Right, so because you didn't personally do that then there isn't an ongoing belief that Thatcher is personally responsible for stealing everyones milk? Once everyone has become accustomed to the state feeding their kids in the morning, how do you think it's going to go down when someone inevitably decides they have to scrap it because the country is fAnd anyway, if history is anything to go by, these breakfasts will consist of sawdust and eyeball sausages, plastic beans and reconstituted-from-styrofoam chips, all costing a grand total of 5p per child.
ked? Look at the outrage from those earning £60k who've lost their family credit.Also, it's milk, fruit, cereals, cereal bars, bagels and toast.
CommanderJameson said:
Oakey said:
It's worse really when you think about it, it's indoctrinating youngsters into the Labour mentality from an early age. Right from the off they'll now grow up with the belief that kids will be fed breakfast in school and it's not something they'll have to worry about doing themselves in the future and before long it'll be seen as another entitlement that will be difficult to remove.
Any evidence for this? I had (like all my contemporaries) had free school milk, and yet I have managed to grow up without developing the notion that milk is what you get for free from school.I hated the stuff!!! It was delivered daily by the milkman, and left in the school entrance porch. This wasn't too bad in the middle of winter when it was properly chilled, but it was absolutely f
king horrific in the middle of summer!!! Remember 1976?To this day, I still can't drink milk neat without gagging, and even on cereal it has to be absolutely ice cold.
I would've done anything in my power to fight that particular entitlement! Far easier, I would imagine, for a reasonable-tasting free breakfast to rapidly become thought of as an entitlement.
This whole thing does piss me off. No school should have to be stepping in to make sure that children get breakfast. That is the responsibility of their parents.
In the worst case, the parents may be providing breakfast through benefits payments, but that should be as far as it goes. Nobody on benefits should be able to afford to smoke, buy alcohol or have a Sky subscription, to name the most obvious Daily-Wailesque categories of frivolous expenditure. If anyone is spending money on any of these and also sending their kids to school without breakfast, then frankly they shouldn't be allowed to keep charge of their kids.
Oakey said:
Right, so because you didn't personally do that then there isn't an ongoing belief that Thatcher is personally responsible for stealing everyones milk?
So fking what? There's an ongoing belief that an invisible man in the sky knocked up a woman in order to become his own dad so he could get nailed to a tree to somehow lead to us to salvation, but I don't see you giving that idea any credence.Kermit power said:
I hated the stuff!!! It was delivered daily by the milkman, and left in the school entrance porch. This wasn't too bad in the middle of winter when it was properly chilled, but it was absolutely fking horrific in the middle of summer!!! Remember 1976?
To this day, I still can't drink milk neat without gagging, and even on cereal it has to be absolutely ice cold.
Jesus. Man up. First world problems, etc. Should have had better parents who could afford to live in an area where the school had a fridge. In fact, it's completely your own fault. You should be ashamed. king horrific in the middle of summer!!! Remember 1976?To this day, I still can't drink milk neat without gagging, and even on cereal it has to be absolutely ice cold.
Kermit Power said:
This whole thing does piss me off. No school should have to be stepping in to make sure that children get breakfast. That is the responsibility of their parents.
Quite agree, but it's an imperfect universe. What are you going to do? Let 'em starve? Dock their parents' benefits? uncinquesei said:
Free breakfasts have been available to school children in Wales for a few years. It's got nothing to do with parents not being able to pay for breakfast but is a very useful service that allows working parents to drop children off at school earlier, knowing they'll get something to eat and the parents can get off to work. Also, a surprising number of children, sadly, will not get breakfast at home.
Far too rational a comment for this thread. Also I suspect by doing this there are improvements in attendance, behaviour and learning.I think the relevent question to be asking primarily is what will the breakfast be?
Will it be potato faces and chocolate or a bowl of non sugared cereal and a piece of fruit?
Surely whether the idea has any merit rests almost solely on what the food is that the children will be eating?
Will it be potato faces and chocolate or a bowl of non sugared cereal and a piece of fruit?
Surely whether the idea has any merit rests almost solely on what the food is that the children will be eating?
Rovinghawk said:
fbrs said:
free school breakfasts for all with a corresponding drop in child benefit to pay for it.
Smart idea- kids get decently fed at no extra cost to the taxpayer & the benefit is guaranteed to be spent on the kids. I'll vote for it.RH
Kermit power said:
This whole thing does piss me off. No school should have to be stepping in to make sure that children get breakfast. That is the responsibility of their parents.
In the worst case, the parents may be providing breakfast through benefits payments, but that should be as far as it goes. Nobody on benefits should be able to afford to smoke, buy alcohol or have a Sky subscription, to name the most obvious Daily-Wailesque categories of frivolous expenditure. If anyone is spending money on any of these and also sending their kids to school without breakfast, then frankly they shouldn't be allowed to keep charge of their kids.
i agree with all of that. parents who dont feed their kids are scum who shouldnt be allowed them but given that its their 'human right' to breed like rats, the least we can do is take the spending power out of their hands, reduce their fags and sky money and spend it on their poor bloody kids as intended.In the worst case, the parents may be providing breakfast through benefits payments, but that should be as far as it goes. Nobody on benefits should be able to afford to smoke, buy alcohol or have a Sky subscription, to name the most obvious Daily-Wailesque categories of frivolous expenditure. If anyone is spending money on any of these and also sending their kids to school without breakfast, then frankly they shouldn't be allowed to keep charge of their kids.
I'm frothing with rage that MY HARD EARNED TAX goes on other people giving birth to people getting free books or for people being allowed to breed and get born in a free hospital and get taught at a free school with FREE BREAKFAST by eating for free public servants with massive pensions and long holidays who go on strike the whole time!
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