Elite Tax Haven Details Leaked

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Pesty

42,655 posts

258 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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Clintons?

Petrus1983

8,912 posts

164 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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texaxile said:
jmorgan said:
Can't see Putin being too worried.
He's probably eating a chinese as we speak...

Getragdogleg

8,822 posts

185 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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Moonhawk said:
timlongs said:
Getragdogleg said:
Blair ?

(please please please)
Doesn't seem to be part of it
Must use a different firm to handle his tax haven cash biggrin
Gah.

Never mine, better luck next time.

hornet

6,333 posts

252 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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Interesting discussions on Twitter as to why no prominent US names on the list (at least thus far) and whether this has anything to do with who supports the ICIJ. Probably tinfoil hattery, but be curious to see how it develops. Is it possible this was an intelligence agency led hack?

Potatoes

3,572 posts

172 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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Definitely odd that no US folks have been implicated.

Sam All

3,101 posts

103 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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Moonhawk said:
timlongs said:
Getragdogleg said:
Blair ?

(please please please)
Doesn't seem to be part of it
Must use a different firm to handle his tax haven cash biggrin
Teflon Tony probably does not have enough money, yet, to be part of this.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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hornet said:
Interesting discussions on Twitter as to why no prominent US names on the list (at least thus far) and whether this has anything to do with who supports the ICIJ. Probably tinfoil hattery, but be curious to see how it develops. Is it possible this was an intelligence agency led hack?
Assad and Putin implicated and mentioned. Quelle surprise?

2.5pi

1,071 posts

184 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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Sam All said:
Teflon Tony probably does not have enough money, yet, to be part of this.
You're kidding aren't you ? He just uses a different dodgy law firm

Sheets Tabuer

19,117 posts

217 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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Getragdogleg said:
Moonhawk said:
timlongs said:
Getragdogleg said:
Blair ?

(please please please)
Doesn't seem to be part of it
Must use a different firm to handle his tax haven cash biggrin
Gah.

Never mine, better luck next time.
Don't think he gives a fk, he happily makes his money with a big fk you to everyone he got killed over his lies.

benjj

6,787 posts

165 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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Also: MF is far from the 4th largest offshore law firm.

I bet the big ones are doing a bit of tech due dilligence right now.

hornet

6,333 posts

252 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
Indeed. Many of the names mentioned thus far are squarely in "well d'uh" territory, which adds an extra layer of intrigue to the situation. It's clearly a big deal, but you have to wonder who's actually behind it and what the agenda is? There's already calls for a searchable database a la previous Wikileaks events, but to date it does seem to be rather staged managed. That's not to disparage the efforts of the journalists involved, as it's clearly been a huge amount of work, but it feels increasingly like they're being fed only what someone wants to feed them. Fascinating story though.

raftom

1,197 posts

263 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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jmorgan said:
Can't see Putin being too worried.
They were already doing damage control last week:

https://www.rt.com/politics/337450-putins-spokesma...

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 3rd April 2016
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Potatoes said:
Definitely odd that no US folks have been implicated.
Very few offshore firms will touch Americans these days. Google FATCA. Besides if it's secrecy you're after AIUI its tough to beat Delaware...

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 3rd April 23:42

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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The rich use tax havens. No st Sherlock.
Lucky barstewards

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Escapegoat said:
Look, the only reason these shell companies and tax havens are necessary is because socialists keep stealing the profits earned by honest and kindly entrepreneurs.

If we didn't tax the fruits of their hard work as much as we do, we'd all have jobs building yachts and gold-plated back-scratchers for them and there'd be no unemployment. As it is, they have to keep their money in tax havens where it doesn't do anyone any good.

Or something.
I don't really get this. I appreciate it's supposed to be satire or something but the last point makes no sense. If you wire money to your super secret offshore account in Panama it will be transfered back onshore to your banks correspondent bank in NY, Tokyo or London by the end of the day...

jmorgan

36,010 posts

286 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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raftom said:
jmorgan said:
Can't see Putin being too worried.
They were already doing damage control last week:

https://www.rt.com/politics/337450-putins-spokesma...
That is Putin RT doing some muck spreading of its own.

ThunderGuts

12,231 posts

196 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Simblade said:
Rumours there are yanks involved but leakers waiting till just before American breakfast to drop.

"Good morning America. A huge leak has shown most of the people in power are s. Nothing to see here. Brown people bad. Buy Cheerios. 13 degrees."
Trump or Clinton... Hmmmmm

Adam Ansel

695 posts

108 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Using tax havens, shell companies, nominees etc is usually legal. But governments don't like it because they want the results of your work to go to them.
However using theses mechanics to launder the proceeds of nefarious activities is illegal. The biggest criminals in the world, in terms of the trillions stolen, are the people who run countries. Which is why Putin is almost certainly the richest man in history, having siphoned of a chunk of Russia's oil revenues for many years.
Also a lot of the money that ends up in the tax haven accounts of the venal ruling classes is what we give away in "aid". 0.7% of GDP would be far better spent domestically.

Puggit

48,532 posts

250 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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I was going to post that one of the more remarkable aspects of this leak is that the leak itself was kept quiet, considering there were so many involved.

The RT story seems to have too many facts correct for my statement above to be true!

turbobloke

104,344 posts

262 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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Orchid1 said:
I bet there's a few PH members stting themselves as well biggrin
They can always claim it was the seafood salad.

Some Gump said:
By guess is whoever did the leaking will be full of polonium within a month...
Definitely a GM Tubes At Dawn situation in the offing.