Elite Tax Haven Details Leaked
Discussion
Interesting discussions on Twitter as to why no prominent US names on the list (at least thus far) and whether this has anything to do with who supports the ICIJ. Probably tinfoil hattery, but be curious to see how it develops. Is it possible this was an intelligence agency led hack?
hornet said:
Interesting discussions on Twitter as to why no prominent US names on the list (at least thus far) and whether this has anything to do with who supports the ICIJ. Probably tinfoil hattery, but be curious to see how it develops. Is it possible this was an intelligence agency led hack?
Assad and Putin implicated and mentioned. Quelle surprise?Getragdogleg said:
Moonhawk said:
timlongs said:
Getragdogleg said:
Blair ?
(please please please)
Doesn't seem to be part of it(please please please)
Never mine, better luck next time.
anonymous said:
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Indeed. Many of the names mentioned thus far are squarely in "well d'uh" territory, which adds an extra layer of intrigue to the situation. It's clearly a big deal, but you have to wonder who's actually behind it and what the agenda is? There's already calls for a searchable database a la previous Wikileaks events, but to date it does seem to be rather staged managed. That's not to disparage the efforts of the journalists involved, as it's clearly been a huge amount of work, but it feels increasingly like they're being fed only what someone wants to feed them. Fascinating story though.jmorgan said:
Can't see Putin being too worried.
They were already doing damage control last week:https://www.rt.com/politics/337450-putins-spokesma...
Escapegoat said:
Look, the only reason these shell companies and tax havens are necessary is because socialists keep stealing the profits earned by honest and kindly entrepreneurs.
If we didn't tax the fruits of their hard work as much as we do, we'd all have jobs building yachts and gold-plated back-scratchers for them and there'd be no unemployment. As it is, they have to keep their money in tax havens where it doesn't do anyone any good.
Or something.
I don't really get this. I appreciate it's supposed to be satire or something but the last point makes no sense. If you wire money to your super secret offshore account in Panama it will be transfered back onshore to your banks correspondent bank in NY, Tokyo or London by the end of the day...If we didn't tax the fruits of their hard work as much as we do, we'd all have jobs building yachts and gold-plated back-scratchers for them and there'd be no unemployment. As it is, they have to keep their money in tax havens where it doesn't do anyone any good.
Or something.
raftom said:
jmorgan said:
Can't see Putin being too worried.
They were already doing damage control last week:https://www.rt.com/politics/337450-putins-spokesma...
Simblade said:
Rumours there are yanks involved but leakers waiting till just before American breakfast to drop.
"Good morning America. A huge leak has shown most of the people in power are s. Nothing to see here. Brown people bad. Buy Cheerios. 13 degrees."
Trump or Clinton... Hmmmmm "Good morning America. A huge leak has shown most of the people in power are s. Nothing to see here. Brown people bad. Buy Cheerios. 13 degrees."
Using tax havens, shell companies, nominees etc is usually legal. But governments don't like it because they want the results of your work to go to them.
However using theses mechanics to launder the proceeds of nefarious activities is illegal. The biggest criminals in the world, in terms of the trillions stolen, are the people who run countries. Which is why Putin is almost certainly the richest man in history, having siphoned of a chunk of Russia's oil revenues for many years.
Also a lot of the money that ends up in the tax haven accounts of the venal ruling classes is what we give away in "aid". 0.7% of GDP would be far better spent domestically.
However using theses mechanics to launder the proceeds of nefarious activities is illegal. The biggest criminals in the world, in terms of the trillions stolen, are the people who run countries. Which is why Putin is almost certainly the richest man in history, having siphoned of a chunk of Russia's oil revenues for many years.
Also a lot of the money that ends up in the tax haven accounts of the venal ruling classes is what we give away in "aid". 0.7% of GDP would be far better spent domestically.
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