Next Conservative party leader.
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I reckon she won't even have to have a reduced majority to feel the pressure to go. She's put what little reputation she has on the line for an increased majority, and that means more than a few. She'd probably feel safe at 35ish.
What will be in her favour is that there might not be a clamour for her seat, so to speak. There are those who see themselves as long-term leaders, and with brexit looming, its unpredictability will put off some of the pretenders.
The recent rumour-mongering about how close the labour vote is will help her. I don't believe they are anywhere near but if TM gets a 35 seat majority it can be heralded as a great victory. Whether the movers and shakers in the party will see it that way remain to be seen.
I reckon 35 is attainable, even if the polls are moment or less correct at the moment. Closer to polling day, people tend to think again.
What will be in her favour is that there might not be a clamour for her seat, so to speak. There are those who see themselves as long-term leaders, and with brexit looming, its unpredictability will put off some of the pretenders.
The recent rumour-mongering about how close the labour vote is will help her. I don't believe they are anywhere near but if TM gets a 35 seat majority it can be heralded as a great victory. Whether the movers and shakers in the party will see it that way remain to be seen.
I reckon 35 is attainable, even if the polls are moment or less correct at the moment. Closer to polling day, people tend to think again.
iphonedyou said:
rfisher said:
So May just scrapes in on Friday with a majority of 8 seats, resigns as PM straight away and announces a leadership election.
That isn't what would happen.She looks like she's about to cry every time she's challenged in any way.
I don't think she will stay without a majority large enough to stop the sniping within the party.
It's also not clear whether or not she will be able to lead a negotiating team for Brexit.
iphonedyou said:
rfisher said:
So May just scrapes in on Friday with a majority of 8 seats, resigns as PM straight away and announces a leadership election.
That isn't what would happen.MarshPhantom said:
Wobbegong said:
catso said:
The thought of BoJo getting the job is enough to consider voting Corbyn. 
The US Presidential visits would be ace. Battle of the hair between Trump & Boris 
Does it really matter? If labour gain power we're f
ked. The markets and sterling are already weakening at the possibility.
The tories will be able to have a chimp as leader and will get back in in 5 years. Not that there'll be much to work with.
Until the next lot of voters who don't remember how bad labour can be.
ked. The markets and sterling are already weakening at the possibility. The tories will be able to have a chimp as leader and will get back in in 5 years. Not that there'll be much to work with.
Until the next lot of voters who don't remember how bad labour can be.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 6th June 15:59
PositronicRay said:
If she has a majority she's staying.
She'll stay, do brexit then be knifed.The Tories wont forget the shambolic campaign, even if they get a healthy majority.
Her only hope of long term survival is to get a truly thumping landslide, as per the reason she called the election in the first place. Still possible as the polls are the very definition of unreliable.
REALIST123 said:
Does it really matter? If labour gain power we're fked. The markets and sterling are already weakening at the possibility.
The tories will be able to have a chimp as leader and will get back in in 5 years. Not that there'll be much to work with.
Until the next lot of voters who don't remember how bad labour can be.
The markets don't look weak at all, quite strong actually, I'd expect a natural correction anyway. Currency is about where it was July 16.ked. The markets and sterling are already weakening at the possibility. The tories will be able to have a chimp as leader and will get back in in 5 years. Not that there'll be much to work with.
Until the next lot of voters who don't remember how bad labour can be.
Edited by REALIST123 on Tuesday 6th June 15:59
I thought - but I could be wrong - that the whole point of her holding an election was that she would then have a mandate to negotiate Brexit. The fact that she hadn't been leader at the last election gave rise to criticism of her as leader.
If she wins, by whatever majority, her stepping down would put her successor in the same position.
If she wins, by whatever majority, her stepping down would put her successor in the same position.
SmoothCriminal said:
Would love to see Jacob Rees Mogg as prime minister.
You know, I honestly wouldn't mind this, he seems to be one of the few tories open to debate & actually listen to and respect his opponents. Definitely something we need more of in politics. I don't agree with most of his politics, but I am not a conservative voter so I don't think that really makes a difference, a stereotypical tory through and through, but would be an articulate leader for the party. Ayahuasca said:
caelite said:
he seems to be one of the few tories open to debate & actually listen to and respect his opponents.
He seems a nice guy, but to actually get things done you need steely determination, not niceness.Ayahuasca said:
caelite said:
he seems to be one of the few tories open to debate & actually listen to and respect his opponents.
He seems a nice guy, but to actually get things done you need steely determination, not niceness.
). Having an articulate spokesperson who can take your beliefs, and your reasoning for having them and explain why he, and his party can better execute your goals, is exactly what you want.I say this as a supporter of the Labour party and an SNP voter, Mogg is one of the few tory MPs who I actually enjoy hearing debate my views. This is exactly what you want in politics, a leader who engages your opposition and challenges there views rather than dismissing them.
sunbeam alpine said:
I thought - but I could be wrong - that the whole point of her holding an election was that she would then have a mandate to negotiate Brexit. The fact that she hadn't been leader at the last election gave rise to criticism of her as leader.
If she wins, by whatever majority, her stepping down would put her successor in the same position.
This is her excuse, not the reason. The mandate for Brexit was the referendum result.If she wins, by whatever majority, her stepping down would put her successor in the same position.
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