First retail ‘name’ to pop off 2018

First retail ‘name’ to pop off 2018

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Yipper

5,964 posts

92 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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The UK high street is seeing a slight revival at the moment. It is not all doom and gloom.

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limpsfield

5,896 posts

255 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
NerveAgent said:
WH Smith can't have much more time, but I've said that since Woolworths went biggrin
Don't know how they keep going,always seem emptyish and I don't think I've ever bought anything in one.
I don’t think WH Smiths are going bust any time soon - share price up around 50% in the last year alone.


kiethton

13,967 posts

182 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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NerveAgent said:
Maybe Debenhams, though I think we may see a few just scale back to a couple of key stores, rather than pop off.
That's their issue, they can't....they're committed to a number of very long-term upward only leases without break clauses - heard the average lease length was approaching 20 years!

That's hugely inflexible and short of subletting these stores (to whom?) the only way they get out of them is via a pre-pack or creditor arrangement. Couple this with the online threat - nowerdays why go specifically to a department store? - and I don't think they (or House of Frasier) are long for this world.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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kiethton said:
That's their issue, they can't....they're committed to a number of very long-term upward only leases without break clauses - heard the average lease length was approaching 20 years!

That's hugely inflexible and short of subletting these stores (to whom?) the only way they get out of them is via a pre-pack or creditor arrangement. Couple this with the online threat - nowerdays why go specifically to a department store? - and I don't think they (or House of Frasier) are long for this world.
What is this House of Frasier? A spin off or a new series? I thought he lived in an apartment.

And ‘nowerdays’? Really?

ninja-lewis

4,274 posts

192 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Pesty said:
Funkycoldribena said:
Don't know how they keep going,always seem emptyish and I don't think I've ever bought anything in one.
Hospital receptions seems to be the only time I see those being used and even then not much.
The travel side of the business makes a reasonable profit from captive audiences at airports, railway stations, hospitals and the like.

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

156 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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limpsfield said:
Funkycoldribena said:
NerveAgent said:
WH Smith can't have much more time, but I've said that since Woolworths went biggrin
Don't know how they keep going,always seem emptyish and I don't think I've ever bought anything in one.
I don’t think WH Smiths are going bust any time soon - share price up around 50% in the last year alone.

Its got to be one bloke buying a lot of pens.

Harpoon

1,892 posts

216 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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garyhun said:
Agree with that. There’s one near Peterborough - sells too varied a product line (doesn’t seem to know what it is) and the discount card is w very weird arrangement.
Go Outdoors became part of the JD Sports group earlier this year, joining Millets and Blacks. They've come a long way from the single store in the back streets of Sheffield (originally known as CCC)

Thankyou4calling

10,645 posts

175 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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limpsfield said:
I don’t think WH Smiths are going bust any time soon - share price up around 50% in the last year alone.

Look, a bloke on PH said he never sees anyone in his local shop so please don't post factual evidence of actual share price growth.

A random bloke no longer goes there for a ream of A4 once a year so it's closing OK.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Clinton’s Cards

Jockman

17,934 posts

162 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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snuffy said:
B&Q. Based on a sample of 1 (me). My local one closed so now I use a small independent DIY shop.

Halfords. Based on another sample of 1 (me). I needed a new headlight bulb yesterday. £10 from Halfords, £2.88 delivered from Amazon.

Mind you, since my local McD shut, I do not go to them anymore. And I refuse to eat at KFC and Pizza Hut since their crap service pissed me off (I complained and they could not car less). But all 3 seems to be doing well, despite me withdrawing my custom from them !
Your local B&Q is now a B&M matey. It was too small to survive.

Sorry to hear about McDs biggrin

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

139 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Next.

Bradgate

2,854 posts

149 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Another vote for House of Fraser. They closed their Leicester store recently, and their Nottingham store now looks quite tatty, old fashioned and unloved. I think they are feeling the pinch.

I have my doubts about Poundland, too. They have ditched their 'everything's £1' policy, thereby trashing their Unique Selling Point.

ambuletz

10,834 posts

183 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Aren't little chef going to be gone soon? I'm sure I read somewhere that it's planned all their sites will be closed and replaced with something else

ClaphamGT3

11,360 posts

245 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
NerveAgent said:
WH Smith can't have much more time, but I've said that since Woolworths went biggrin
Don't know how they keep going,always seem emptyish and I don't think I've ever bought anything in one.
They always used to make their real money out of distribution/wholesale. The retail business is only part of the story

Halb

53,012 posts

185 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Thankyou4calling said:
I'm going for Woolworths or MFI.
Tandy? biggrin

Randy Winkman

16,514 posts

191 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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kiethton said:
NerveAgent said:
Maybe Debenhams, though I think we may see a few just scale back to a couple of key stores, rather than pop off.
That's their issue, they can't....they're committed to a number of very long-term upward only leases without break clauses - heard the average lease length was approaching 20 years!

That's hugely inflexible and short of subletting these stores (to whom?) the only way they get out of them is via a pre-pack or creditor arrangement. Couple this with the online threat - nowerdays why go specifically to a department store? - and I don't think they (or House of Frasier) are long for this world.
The long lease issue is an interesting one I'd not thought about. I recently wondered why there are still 2 Argos's in Bromley. One fairly small one and one massive one which 20 years ago was rammed full but nowadays you could have kick about in it while the shop's open.

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

156 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Halb said:
Thankyou4calling said:
I'm going for Woolworths or MFI.
Tandy? biggrin
Index?

Yipper

5,964 posts

92 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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ambuletz said:
Aren't little chef going to be gone soon? I'm sure I read somewhere that it's planned all their sites will be closed and replaced with something else
Yes, all remaining 60-70 Little Chef restaurants in the UK will be closed by 2018 and replaced with Greggs or Starbucks franchises.

Travelers are still happy to eat junk food, but only if it is dirt-cheap, or sitting on squishy sofas that make them feel all posh and stuff.

NewNameNeeded

2,560 posts

227 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
Halb said:
Thankyou4calling said:
I'm going for Woolworths or MFI.
Tandy? biggrin
Index?
Blockbuster?

snuffy

9,999 posts

286 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Jockman said:
Your local B&Q is now a B&M matey. It was too small to survive.
It is indeed Phil - now it's too much effort to go to the one in Chester.

Jockman said:
Sorry to hear about McDs biggrin
So was I, but now it means I don't stuff my trap on Muffs and Big Breakfasts !