Alysha Macphail- 6 yr old missing on Scottish Island

Alysha Macphail- 6 yr old missing on Scottish Island

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XCP

16,959 posts

229 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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AbzGuyGTI said:
poo at Paul's said:
Family related? Has to be what they think, surely?
I think so and unfortunately i can't see it being anything else either...poor girl!
Most murders are.

MC Bodge

21,820 posts

176 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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XCP said:
AbzGuyGTI said:
poo at Paul's said:
Family related? Has to be what they think, surely?
I think so and unfortunately i can't see it being anything else either...poor girl!
Most murders are.
Although racists often jump to other conclusions without cause.

jsc15

981 posts

209 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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MC Bodge said:
XCP said:
AbzGuyGTI said:
poo at Paul's said:
Family related? Has to be what they think, surely?
I think so and unfortunately i can't see it being anything else either...poor girl!
Most murders are.
Although racists often jump to other conclusions without cause.
I've not seen any conclusions jumped to other than "most murders" being "family related". Whether or not this turns out to be the case, doesn't mean it was racist to look at other possibilities. It's like stating all London knife murders are by white people because it would be "racist" to suggest the perpetrators are mainly black.

The Syrian angle has been brought up as relevant as slightly over 1% of the island's population are displaced Syrians, and as alluded to already, sexual assaults are notably higher within specific cultures (see also Germany and Sweden for this).

If it turns out to be a family member or not, it's not as relevant as ensuring the perpetrator is charged and convicted, and has a hellish time in prison forever more.

steveT350C

6,728 posts

162 months

dromond

689 posts

221 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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MC Bodge said:
Although racists often jump to other conclusions without cause.
Could you please point out in the thread where a racist jumped to an other conclusion?, I have searched vigorously
and cant see it. The only conclusion I can come to is you just made that up.

rscott

14,818 posts

192 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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R8Steve said:
Sexual crimes are up 45% from last years figures alone on Bute
Nope, they're not. Sexual crimes in Argyll & Bute (of which Bute is less than 10% of the population) were up in 2014/15, but have fallen since. Apparently the increase was due to reporting of historical offences.

http://www.thenational.scot/news/16332409.katie-ho...

MC Bodge

21,820 posts

176 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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dromond said:
MC Bodge said:
Although racists often jump to other conclusions without cause.
Could you please point out in the thread where a racist jumped to an other conclusion?, I have searched vigorously
and cant see it. The only conclusion I can come to is you just made that up.
Then why are you so bothered about my post then?

hidetheelephants

24,954 posts

194 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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It didn't take long for bilge monger Hopkins to wade in; it's a wee shame for her that her tweet's a load of bks.

dromond

689 posts

221 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Is that all you can give as a reply?, your post doesn't 'bother' me in the slightest, cant see where you drew that
conclusion fromwobble.

You forgot to point out where the racist conclusion was as well, don't tell me...you cant find it eitherlaugh
You really need to be a bit more careful when posting made up guff, when you get called out for doing so
it can be a tad embarrassing.

tim0409

4,489 posts

160 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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steveT350C said:
Male under the age of 18 according to the Press and Journal.

XCP

16,959 posts

229 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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jsc15 said:
I've not seen any conclusions jumped to other than "most murders" being "family related". Whether or not this turns out to be the case, doesn't mean it was racist to look at other possibilities. It's like stating all London knife murders are by white people because it would be "racist" to suggest the perpetrators are mainly black.

The Syrian angle has been brought up as relevant as slightly over 1% of the island's population are displaced Syrians, and as alluded to already, sexual assaults are notably higher within specific cultures (see also Germany and Sweden for this).

If it turns out to be a family member or not, it's not as relevant as ensuring the perpetrator is charged and convicted, and has a hellish time in prison forever more.
It's a pretty well known fact that most murders involve relations in some way. I wouldn't say that it was 'jumping to conclusions' to point that out.

MC Bodge

21,820 posts

176 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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dromond said:
Is that all you can give as a reply?, your post doesn't 'bother' me in the slightest, cant see where you drew that
conclusion fromwobble.

You forgot to point out where the racist conclusion was as well, don't tell me...you cant find it eitherlaugh
You really need to be a bit more careful when posting made up guff, when you get called out for doing so
it can be a tad embarrassing.
You do seem quite bothered by something that may not have even been aimed towards you.

AbzGuyGTI

579 posts

190 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Yip a 16 year old arrested but police still searching & asking for help and any video evidence people may have?! Still all seems rather strange to me?

I guess until they come out and tell us what happened..if they even know we'll be kept in the dark even more so now i guess with it being an U18 arrested?

dromond

689 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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AbzGuyGTI said:
Yip a 16 year old arrested but police still searching & asking for help and any video evidence people may have?! Still all seems rather strange to me?

I guess until they come out and tell us what happened..if they even know we'll be kept in the dark even more so now i guess with it being an U18 arrested?
Chances are the public wont be told any other details now, which leads to all manner of speculation and guessing,
one of the more fanciful ideas I have heard is that the culprit isn't 16 but they are saying that so they don't have to name him.rolleyes

Whoever it is, if found guilty, should never be allowed to walk the streets ever again.

rscott

14,818 posts

192 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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dromond said:
AbzGuyGTI said:
Yip a 16 year old arrested but police still searching & asking for help and any video evidence people may have?! Still all seems rather strange to me?

I guess until they come out and tell us what happened..if they even know we'll be kept in the dark even more so now i guess with it being an U18 arrested?
Chances are the public wont be told any other details now, which leads to all manner of speculation and guessing,
one of the more fanciful ideas I have heard is that the culprit isn't 16 but they are saying that so they don't have to name him.rolleyes

Whoever it is, if found guilty, should never be allowed to walk the streets ever again.
Why would they not want to name him?

dromond

689 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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rscott said:
dromond said:
AbzGuyGTI said:
Yip a 16 year old arrested but police still searching & asking for help and any video evidence people may have?! Still all seems rather strange to me?

I guess until they come out and tell us what happened..if they even know we'll be kept in the dark even more so now i guess with it being an U18 arrested?
Chances are the public wont be told any other details now, which leads to all manner of speculation and guessing,
one of the more fanciful ideas I have heard is that the culprit isn't 16 but they are saying that so they don't have to name him.rolleyes

Whoever it is, if found guilty, should never be allowed to walk the streets ever again.
Why would they not want to name him?
In case of backlash from the local hooligan squad apparently.

Oakey

27,611 posts

217 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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A 16yr old would rule out any of the family members then I guess as there's been no mention of any other children in the household so far?

What's somewhat terrifying is the thought this girl may somehow exited the property in the night on her own accord and the first person she runs into doesn't call the police to inform them they've found her but decides to murder her instead.

dromond

689 posts

221 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Oakey said:
A 16yr old would rule out any of the family members then I guess as there's been no mention of any other children in the household so far?

What's somewhat terrifying is the thought this girl may somehow exited the property in the night on her own accord and the first person she runs into doesn't call the police to inform them they've found her but decides to murder her instead.
Hard to comprehend how anyone could have such an amount of evil within them, another truly shocking murder of an innocent
child in Scotland. So sad.

AbzGuyGTI

579 posts

190 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Oakey said:
A 16yr old would rule out any of the family members then I guess as there's been no mention of any other children in the household so far?

What's somewhat terrifying is the thought this girl may somehow exited the property in the night on her own accord and the first person she runs into doesn't call the police to inform them they've found her but decides to murder her instead.
Yip that's what i'm finding all too confusing too...!

Did she just walk out the house? If so why? I read she sleep walks but then walks into a murdering 16yo? Just doesn't add up! I think she must have known the 16yo...possibly a cousin...who knows!

As above, i guess we may never know!

Dan_1981

17,424 posts

200 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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More likely to be a come and meet me at night type thing.

Sneak out of the house and come be my friend....