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El stovey said:
Turning on BBC news (because it’s the best). I saw a young woman with nice yellow earrings and matching yellow microphone talking about (the dangers of a hard) brexit. I assumed it was BBC children’s news hour or a cbeebies hard brexit special for kids.
I discovered that this passionate youngster is Jo Swinson the leader of the Liberal Democrats, after her mighty defeat of political heavyweight favorite Ed Davey .
She’s there, making her first major speech, welcoming defecting MPs and telling Corbyn how it is, speaking passionately about stopping brexit and preserving democracy. She’s got a plan for the climate emergency for stopping terrorists and stopping brexit. She wants us, and hopefully more defectors by her side.
Is she a future PM or is another party killing coalition compromise in store or will she just be quietly replaced by another libdem nobody has heard of?
The Libdems are currently about as relevant as UKIP.I discovered that this passionate youngster is Jo Swinson the leader of the Liberal Democrats, after her mighty defeat of political heavyweight favorite Ed Davey .
She’s there, making her first major speech, welcoming defecting MPs and telling Corbyn how it is, speaking passionately about stopping brexit and preserving democracy. She’s got a plan for the climate emergency for stopping terrorists and stopping brexit. She wants us, and hopefully more defectors by her side.
Is she a future PM or is another party killing coalition compromise in store or will she just be quietly replaced by another libdem nobody has heard of?
WinstonWolf said:
El stovey said:
Turning on BBC news (because it’s the best). I saw a young woman with nice yellow earrings and matching yellow microphone talking about (the dangers of a hard) brexit. I assumed it was BBC children’s news hour or a cbeebies hard brexit special for kids.
I discovered that this passionate youngster is Jo Swinson the leader of the Liberal Democrats, after her mighty defeat of political heavyweight favorite Ed Davey .
She’s there, making her first major speech, welcoming defecting MPs and telling Corbyn how it is, speaking passionately about stopping brexit and preserving democracy. She’s got a plan for the climate emergency for stopping terrorists and stopping brexit. She wants us, and hopefully more defectors by her side.
Is she a future PM or is another party killing coalition compromise in store or will she just be quietly replaced by another libdem nobody has heard of?
The Libdems are currently about as relevant as UKIP.I discovered that this passionate youngster is Jo Swinson the leader of the Liberal Democrats, after her mighty defeat of political heavyweight favorite Ed Davey .
She’s there, making her first major speech, welcoming defecting MPs and telling Corbyn how it is, speaking passionately about stopping brexit and preserving democracy. She’s got a plan for the climate emergency for stopping terrorists and stopping brexit. She wants us, and hopefully more defectors by her side.
Is she a future PM or is another party killing coalition compromise in store or will she just be quietly replaced by another libdem nobody has heard of?
valiant said:
WinstonWolf said:
The Libdems are currently about as relevant as UKIP.
The DUP have 10 MPs and have allowed the Tories to form a government.The Libdems have 14 MPs and on course to win more. They could be pivotal in forming a government at the next GE.
That’s why they’re relevant.
The Surveyor said:
I thought Corbyn has said he will support a second referendum as part of his Caretaker Government, unless he's changed his mind, or that was last week and he's mow saying he doesn't support it, or he will support anybody who gives him the keys to No. 10 regardless.... 
I may be remembering incorrectly but I thought he said he'd support a second referendum unless they got into power in which case they won't, or somethingWinstonWolf said:
valiant said:
WinstonWolf said:
The Libdems are currently about as relevant as UKIP.
The DUP have 10 MPs and have allowed the Tories to form a government.The Libdems have 14 MPs and on course to win more. They could be pivotal in forming a government at the next GE.
That’s why they’re relevant.
I suppose you could say the majority of people know what UKIP stands for, which is being a bunch of nasty rissoles. Hence the reason practically nobody votes for them any more.
eharding said:
WinstonWolf said:
valiant said:
WinstonWolf said:
The Libdems are currently about as relevant as UKIP.
The DUP have 10 MPs and have allowed the Tories to form a government.The Libdems have 14 MPs and on course to win more. They could be pivotal in forming a government at the next GE.
That’s why they’re relevant.
I suppose you could say the majority of people know what UKIP stands for, which is being a bunch of nasty rissoles. Hence the reason practically nobody votes for them any more.
Gargamel said:
Jasandjules said:
We had a democratic vote. Leave won. Anything else is undemocratic.
Plus anyone who goes for the "climate emergency" rubbish is not intelligent enough to run the country IMHO>
So plastic falling from the sky doesn’t convince you that we may need a change ? Plus anyone who goes for the "climate emergency" rubbish is not intelligent enough to run the country IMHO>
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49295...
There can no longer be any real doubt, the world IS getting warmer and we should all take sensible steps to reduce our impact on it.
Jo Swindon is a good advocate of bringing a change, she will have virtually no impact presently, but I wonder if the Lib Dems might scoop 30 - 50 seats at the next election on the basis that they don’t look quite a angry and frothy as the other two.
k all to do with carbon dioxide potentially changing the climate... And here's the problem. f
kwits focusing on plant food gas, have helped create the conditions where proper, measurable and direct eco destruction is occurring. Meanwhile, the rest of the world focuses on improving their own living standards, and do all the things we did but bigger/faster/more destructive. The Victorians didn't have the option of polymers to accelerate the drive for development - they used nasty fuels, and metal. So the oceans are full of s
t. WinstonWolf said:
I suppose you could say the majority of people know what Libdems stand for, which is having an undeserved air of smug superiority. Hence the reason practically nobody votes for them any more.
The voting intention poll above indicates the LibDems on 21%. UKIP are somewhere in that sad, grey little box marked 'Other'.Obviously, polls like this have a margin for error.....but if your figure doesn't even get broken out of the also-rans, you know the party is over.
eharding said:
WinstonWolf said:
I suppose you could say the majority of people know what Libdems stand for, which is having an undeserved air of smug superiority. Hence the reason practically nobody votes for them any more.
The voting intention poll above indicates the LibDems on 21%. UKIP are somewhere in that sad, grey little box marked 'Other'.Obviously, polls like this have a margin for error.....but if your figure doesn't even get broken out of the also-rans, you know the party is over.
WinstonWolf said:
eharding said:
WinstonWolf said:
I suppose you could say the majority of people know what Libdems stand for, which is having an undeserved air of smug superiority. Hence the reason practically nobody votes for them any more.
The voting intention poll above indicates the LibDems on 21%. UKIP are somewhere in that sad, grey little box marked 'Other'.Obviously, polls like this have a margin for error.....but if your figure doesn't even get broken out of the also-rans, you know the party is over.
eharding said:
WinstonWolf said:
eharding said:
WinstonWolf said:
I suppose you could say the majority of people know what Libdems stand for, which is having an undeserved air of smug superiority. Hence the reason practically nobody votes for them any more.
The voting intention poll above indicates the LibDems on 21%. UKIP are somewhere in that sad, grey little box marked 'Other'.Obviously, polls like this have a margin for error.....but if your figure doesn't even get broken out of the also-rans, you know the party is over.
eharding said:
WinstonWolf said:
eharding said:
WinstonWolf said:
I suppose you could say the majority of people know what Libdems stand for, which is having an undeserved air of smug superiority. Hence the reason practically nobody votes for them any more.
The voting intention poll above indicates the LibDems on 21%. UKIP are somewhere in that sad, grey little box marked 'Other'.Obviously, polls like this have a margin for error.....but if your figure doesn't even get broken out of the also-rans, you know the party is over.
I wouldn't vote Lib Dem if you held an ethically-sourced gun to my head.
However - like me - Ms Swinson is reportedly a keen Civilization (computer game for the unitiated) player, and consequently I am favourably disposed to her.
As for the global warming obsession, she probably wants to avoid having coastal districts flooding, because that's a real pain in the late game.
However - like me - Ms Swinson is reportedly a keen Civilization (computer game for the unitiated) player, and consequently I am favourably disposed to her.
As for the global warming obsession, she probably wants to avoid having coastal districts flooding, because that's a real pain in the late game.
It's not the LibDem's electability to power that is the problem. It's their capacity to join (bribe) others to produce another hopeless minority government thereby dividing opinion and subsequently blocking procedure. These carpet-bagging alliances are by their nature negative in their aims - designed entirely to frustrate and bluster. It's a merry-go-round of wannabes and gobstes with very little individual support or evidence of ability.
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