The end of the Union, who'll go first?

The end of the Union, who'll go first?

Poll: The end of the Union, who'll go first?

Total Members Polled: 247

Northern Ireland: 19%
Scotland: 47%
That London: 4%
Berwick-upon-Tweed: 3%
ger way son, stop batherin' we're reet: 26%
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Jasey_

4,920 posts

179 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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The only way Scotland or NI are leaving is if England get a vote on it !

And they would probably also kick out Wales while they're at it wink.

Mabbs9

1,094 posts

219 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Sturgeon doesn't want independence. Sure wants a permanent discussion pretending she does. If she achieves independence then she'll just be an average leader and will lose her position in no time.

Watch how many times she raises the idea of another referendum without putting any actual pressure on Westminster to grant one. Hot air is all she has.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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SO a United Ireland exists on the Rugby pitch, and play today in the World Cup.

How is this viewed in NI by he Protestant community? Do they get behind it? Or do they hate the idea? Will they be cheering on the kiwis?

Sport can bring people together. Encourage camaraderie. Trust. Friendship, partnership and togetherness.

But then there’s religion. It seems an oxymoron that a god fearing Christian society can’t come together when they effectivly believe in the same basic religion.

I think the people on NI might just realise that the rest of the UK is tired of having a ‘problem child that won’t leave the nest’.

And if I was a uk citizen in NI, I think I’d prefer a future in the EU.

You just have to sort out the zealots. But I think in NI that’s impossible.

What will be interesting is how business sees an opportunity to exploit the terms of the deal in NI....

Eric Mc

122,165 posts

266 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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The Union began to disintegrate in 1921.

abzmike

8,500 posts

107 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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lonny said:
Scotland first but Northern Ireland won’t be far behind. It is somewhat ironic that the Conservative & Unionist party has done more for the cause of Irish nationalism than anyone else in recent years.
It is somewhat ironic that the Conservative & Unionist party has done more for the cause of Irish nationalism than anyone else in the last 3 days.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Don’t forget if Scotland breaks away and goes independent the rUK will have to pay $billions in compensation for the stolen North Sea Oil.

wink

Jasey_

4,920 posts

179 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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TTmonkey said:
Don’t forget if Scotland breaks away and goes independent the rUK will have to pay $billions in compensation for the stolen North Sea Oil.

wink
Boris could build a wall and make the scotch pay for it.

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Demographics mean that Ireland is likely in the medium term.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/new-light...

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Peoples republic of Yorkshire

Everybody sing our national anthem

Wheear 'as ta bin sin ah saw thee,
On Ilkla Moor baht 'at?!
Wheear 'as ta bin sin ah saw thee?

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

184 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Jasey_ said:
Boris could build a wall and make the scotch pay for it.
Or the Newcy brown ale.

Jasey_

4,920 posts

179 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Halb said:
Jasey_ said:
Boris could build a wall and make the scotch pay for it.
Or the Newcy brown ale.
Buckfast smile

Ian Geary

4,522 posts

193 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Given how firmly the eu are on the fence with the shenanigans in Spain, I can't see them touching a newly independent region with a barge pole. So I expect the hot air to continue blowing south, but no real action.

NI to me is the most likely candidate.

Which of the uk's regions are actually financially viable? London obviously, and probably the south east.

But some level of cross subsidisation is expected in any political area..from a family level right up to nations of 1bn+.

I can't get too upset about it tbh, but could do without the snp bile as if everything the English touch is poison.

Borghetto

3,274 posts

184 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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TTmonkey said:
Don’t forget if Scotland breaks away and goes independent the rUK will have to pay $billions in compensation for the stolen North Sea Oil.

wink
No, Boris will negotiate to pay the compo in English Pounds. Which without Scotland's great natural wealth, wind and wave power (and in the SNP's case, very much wind) will be worth practically nothing when converted into Scots Groats.

Jasey_

4,920 posts

179 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&amp...

Just seen this. BBC mistakes Nicola Sturgeon with Gorrilla. Almost as funny as the taxi driver they thought was a music expert.

glazbagun

14,296 posts

198 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Mabbs9 said:
Sturgeon doesn't want independence. Sure wants a permanent discussion pretending she does. If she achieves independence then she'll just be an average leader and will lose her position in no time.

Watch how many times she raises the idea of another referendum without putting any actual pressure on Westminster to grant one. Hot air is all she has.
+1. Power and money without taking any responsibility. The dream of many a politician.

W124Bob

1,751 posts

176 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Pimlico.

Thorodin

2,459 posts

134 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Just watching Blatchford giving forth. And forth. And forth. That man is Scotland's worst enemy. Why is he tolerated? Oh, yes, an easy target and nobody else has to bother.

iphonedyou

9,267 posts

158 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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TTmonkey said:
SO a United Ireland exists on the Rugby pitch, and play today in the World Cup.

How is this viewed in NI by he Protestant community? Do they get behind it? Or do they hate the idea? Will they be cheering on the kiwis?

Sport can bring people together. Encourage camaraderie. Trust. Friendship, partnership and togetherness.

But then there’s religion. It seems an oxymoron that a god fearing Christian society can’t come together when they effectivly believe in the same basic religion.

I think the people on NI might just realise that the rest of the UK is tired of having a ‘problem child that won’t leave the nest’.

And if I was a uk citizen in NI, I think I’d prefer a future in the EU.

You just have to sort out the zealots. But I think in NI that’s impossible.

What will be interesting is how business sees an opportunity to exploit the terms of the deal in NI....
The Ireland rugby team is supported by both protestant and catholic rugby fans. The team itself is formed of players from any county team - so generally (as today) has Ulster players on the field, as well as Munster, Connaught et al. Indeed Rory Best captained the side more times than I can remember, as an Ulster player.

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

184 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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W124Bob said:
Pimlico.
it's just because we are English that we're sticking up for our right to be Burgundian!

Countdown

40,068 posts

197 months

Saturday 19th October 2019
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Short Grain said:
Hopefully Scotland, not because of the people, their great.

Purely so we don't have to listen to the Poison Dwarf anymore!
Hasn't she been elected by those great people?