Javier Milei wins Argentina election

[cirian75]

Alickadoo said:

Will he want to re-invade/re-possess the Falklands?

Give it 6 months when he fails with the Argentinean economy just like everyone has before him.

[NerveAgent]

Let’s guess the script for this one….

Argentina will be screwed even more in a few years time, but it will all be the fault of a shadowy cabal of space lizards from the WEF.

[sugerbear]

Capitalism and socialism can quite happily live together side by side. It's always convenient for a leader to blame something / someone / a group on the reasons their country is in a mess.

I have zero faith in this guy much as I did with Trump / Liz Truss / Sunak and so on.

[Mrr T]

caziques said:

One prerequisite for a successful economy is sound money with low inflation. As the Argentinian central bank has not achieved this, getting rid of it and using the US dollar sounds like a good idea.

Except that's not possible.

[Digga]

greygoose said:

Image based on the Wolverine and Elvis and nickname of El Loco, no wonder Argentina has the most psychologists per capita in the world!

My first thought was "Boris has a cousin" but that description is similarly apt.

[andymc]

has anyone achieved this "Socialist Utopia"?

[Evercross]

President Merkin said:

Decades of economic mismanagement centred around a huge welfare state, nationalism & economic isolation.

That sounds like an SNP Scotland to me.

[hidetheelephants]

Byker28i said:

alfaspecial said:

Obviously as Argentina is the other side of the world and we (The UK) have only two real connections (The Falklands War and corned beef!) news of the Argentine elections / economy are not really debated much in the UK media.

It's always interesting to read another countries news through 'their' media.

The (Argentine) English language newspaper https://buenosairesherald.com/ uses terms like far right and libertarian in the same sort of frequency that The Independent (newspaper website) uses terms like Brexiteer, far right, little Englander etc!

The Falklands have much more going on than just Corned beef and a war 40 years ago. For some time the argentinians have been overfishing and some claim poaching the lucrative squid, in a govt driven policy to put further economic strain onto the islanders

Chinese trawlers have been poaching in both fisheries.

[hairykrishna]

President Merkin said:

I think that encapsulates it neatly. Argentina suffers from long Peronism. Decades of economic mismanagement centred around a huge welfare state, nationalism & economic isolation, cutting itself off from international trade. Peronists have run the place for 16 out of the past 20 years. The upshot is a nation of subsidy addicted people where a third of the working population works for the state, pay about a fifth of what Europeans do on utilities & take generous pensions.

In turn,all that led to 140% inflation, a de facto dollar economy where saving in Pesos is ruinous & money changers line the streets. Whether Milei is the answer remains to be seen. He at least acknowledges the economic stink. On the other hand he's a climate denier, in favour of banning abortion in any circumstances including rape and supports prostutuion & trade in human organs. In short, more than a bit unhinged but might make a dent in the economy. I suspect the cure may be worse than the disease, the situation is far more nuanced than reductive left vs right schtick.

Massive, widespread corruption also plays its part.

[RichTT]

andymc said:

has anyone achieved this "Socialist Utopia"?

No, because every time they try it kills millions.

Guess they just need to try harder.

[Digga]

RichTT said:

No, because every time they try it kills millions.

Guess they just need to try harder.

What, again?

Harder than Stalin or Mao?

[stuckmojo]

NerveAgent said:

Let’s guess the script for this one….

Argentina will be screwed even more in a few years time, but it will all be the fault of a shadowy cabal of space lizards from the WEF.

Very likely


https://www.weforum.org/people/javier-gerardo-mile...

[President Merkin]

Likelier by the hour. Up to his neck in Tufton street think tanks. Bolsonaro 2.0

https://substack.com/profile/8210670-peter-geogheg...

[F1GTRUeno]

105.4 said:

It seems to me that anyone who isn’t going to automatically and intentionally screw their country over is labelled as “far right”.

It’s almost as if it’s a badge of honour to be so


I know nothing of Javier Milei, but I’m going to take a guess that he isn’t “far right” at all.

He absolutely is though.

[RichTT]

Digga said:

What, again?

Harder than Stalin or Mao?

Yup, they obviously just didn't use the right kind of socialism.

[isaldiri]

Digga said:

RichTT said:

No, because every time they try it kills millions.

Guess they just need to try harder.

What, again?

Harder than Stalin or Mao?

Well of course. 'True socialism' was failed in implementation by the flawed people in charge who became class traitors so it's obviously never the concept that's wrong.... the same kind of excuse is also regularly trotted out about 'true conservatism' or 'true capitalism' or 'true <whatever>' after all as to why their promise of an utopic paradise never actually happened.....

[sugerbear]

andymc said:

has anyone achieved this "Socialist Utopia"?

Top eight happiest countries.

Finland
Denmark
Switzerland
Iceland
Norway
Netherlands
Sweden
New Zealand

[F1GTRUeno]

RichTT said:

Digga said:

What, again?

Harder than Stalin or Mao?

Yup, they obviously just didn't use the right kind of socialism.

To be fair, they obviously didn't.

Socialism and communism as an idea is the right one. Unfortunately humans cannot share and there always has to be the haves and have nots. In every case of 'communism' there's been a rich, powerful elite taking everything and leaving everyone else with nothing, ergo it's not really communism or socialism, just dictatorship.

[Digga]

isaldiri said:

Digga said:

RichTT said:

No, because every time they try it kills millions.

Guess they just need to try harder.

What, again?

Harder than Stalin or Mao?

Well of course. 'True socialism' was failed in implementation by the flawed people in charge who became class traitors so it's obviously never the concept that's wrong.... the same kind of excuse is also regularly trotted out about 'true conservatism' or 'true capitalism' or 'true <whatever>' after all as to why their promise of an utopic paradise never actually happened.....

As Churchill said, democracy is merely the least worst option.

[Castrol for a knave]

said:

Socialism is unworkable because people are greedy just as laissez faire, unregulated markets are unworkable, because people are greedy. Be it for money, power, sex or MX5's....