JFK - The political reasons for assassination
Discussion
Jordie Barretts sock said:
So, assuming the CIA cabal was a real thing, was Oswald in on it, and if so, what was he gaining? Apart from worldwide fame and the electric chair.
There's so many oddities with Oswald (not least the boomerang citizenship/passport)And taken out in days by Jack ruby, after the fact. Convenient.
M.
A500leroy said:
And isnt it odd it was all filmed? Whats the chances of that exact spot being filmed in early 60s America? Were other visits by JFK filmed to that extent?
It was filmed by chance by the one cameraman. There was an interesting documentary on Mr Zapruder the other night.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37eu9Txjz0I
Edited by Bigends on Tuesday 21st November 16:39
In 1991 Oliver Stone explained the conspiracy in perfect detail. Unfortunately, where there were gaps he created characters to fill them in. However you are left with the conclusion that the Pentagon and its Contractors had most to lose and the ability to put it all together.
So yes, Oswald was the Patsy, the Warren Commission was a joke, Jim Garrison was right all along and the Govt did everything in its power to cover his attempts at exposing the conspiracy.. The so-called Magic Bullet theory is trashed as is Oswald's ability to fire 4 accurate shots in 2.5s, conveniently leave his rifle in the book depository and get himself arrested and killed by the time LBJ had been sworn in.
It is available on Netflix and is convincing with its detail. But you need to make your own mind up.
So yes, Oswald was the Patsy, the Warren Commission was a joke, Jim Garrison was right all along and the Govt did everything in its power to cover his attempts at exposing the conspiracy.. The so-called Magic Bullet theory is trashed as is Oswald's ability to fire 4 accurate shots in 2.5s, conveniently leave his rifle in the book depository and get himself arrested and killed by the time LBJ had been sworn in.
It is available on Netflix and is convincing with its detail. But you need to make your own mind up.
There was a programe a couple of years back and it was revealed that was fatal shot was an accidental shot from one of the Secret Service guys, apparently it happened in all the confusion.
I recall it put paid to all the conspiracy theories and magic bulleys. Or did I dream watching it?
I recall it put paid to all the conspiracy theories and magic bulleys. Or did I dream watching it?
I also remember the 'shot from the front seat' analysis & it did seem to make a lot of sense.
I once had a full copy of the Warren report picked up in an old bookshop - online these days - https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commi...
I once had a full copy of the Warren report picked up in an old bookshop - online these days - https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commi...
Edited by julianm on Tuesday 21st November 19:10
speedchick said:
There was a programe a couple of years back and it was revealed that was fatal shot was an accidental shot from one of the Secret Service guys, apparently it happened in all the confusion.
I recall it put paid to all the conspiracy theories and magic bulleys. Or did I dream watching it?
Ha. No I remember that: it turns out the security detail had been out on the lash the night before and a camera analysis suggested that yes, Kennedy had received a likely shot from an hungover secret service agent in the chaos.I recall it put paid to all the conspiracy theories and magic bulleys. Or did I dream watching it?
That said I may have missed the thing about the headshot: that didn’t look like the kind of damage a side arm from secret service would be able to do.
rdjohn said:
In 1991 Oliver Stone explained the conspiracy in perfect detail. Unfortunately, where there were gaps he created characters to fill them in. However you are left with the conclusion that the Pentagon and its Contractors had most to lose and the ability to put it all together.
So yes, Oswald was the Patsy, the Warren Commission was a joke, Jim Garrison was right all along and the Govt did everything in its power to cover his attempts at exposing the conspiracy.. The so-called Magic Bullet theory is trashed as is Oswald's ability to fire 4 accurate shots in 2.5s, conveniently leave his rifle in the book depository and get himself arrested and killed by the time LBJ had been sworn in.
It is available on Netflix and is convincing with its detail. But you need to make your own mind up.
He (Stone) goes into further detail in his 2021 film JFK revisited as many of the classified docs had been released after public pressure, for me there was definitely a cover up.So yes, Oswald was the Patsy, the Warren Commission was a joke, Jim Garrison was right all along and the Govt did everything in its power to cover his attempts at exposing the conspiracy.. The so-called Magic Bullet theory is trashed as is Oswald's ability to fire 4 accurate shots in 2.5s, conveniently leave his rifle in the book depository and get himself arrested and killed by the time LBJ had been sworn in.
It is available on Netflix and is convincing with its detail. But you need to make your own mind up.
Wills2 said:
He (Stone) goes into further detail in his 2021 film JFK revisited as many of the classified docs had been released after public pressure, for me there was definitely a cover up.
Perhaps that is what I saw on Netflix in September this year as it does mention those documents. It is a powerful film, that I want to, instinctively, not believe. However, on the balance of probabilities, it seems believable. The whole Oswald and Ruby thing just looks like a fairy tail. There had to be more than one shooter position sufficiently close to the target, that could fire the volley almost simultaneously. No marksman with a Sniper rifle could achieve what Oswald was claimed to have achieved from his compromised position in the book repository.
nikaiyo2 said:
I think the argument that JFK was a mob assassination are more convincing than CIA/ FBI. I also think if it was “establishment” someone would have talked by now, deathbed confessions etc etc.
I think the opposite, as there would be no reason for the SS or military to need to cover up what they clearly saw as their failure to protect the Pres, and/or CIA involvement (rather than FBI) in setting it up...........its was the Mob, would have been easy to have pushed from the moment he died.The accounts from the Parkland doctors 50 years after the event, along with the SS not wishing to abide by the law in not allowing the PM to be done according to Texas law, the witnesses confirming the body arrived in the Bethesda morgue in a different casket to the one clearly seen being placed on AF1 in Dallas, the military appointed two unqualified people to perform the PM.., and the list goes on....
Its was either a SS/CIA conspiracy or gross incompetence.....or a combination of both.
LHO clearly did shoot at JFK from the window, and likely at least hit Connally and from that tv programme the other night, may have also hit JFK in the back, although the fact that no exit would from that entry mark, and no bullet was ever discovered (or admitted to) from inside JFK's body from that entry would is still a mystery in regard that entry wound??
The accidental shot from a SS gun being the cause of the fatal head shot from the front is plausible in many ways.....but the entry hole in his forehead as shown and described by the doctors and later the 'official' PM, didn't seem to be big enough for a M1911 .45, which I assume back in 1963, all SS close protection details would have been armed with as the standard sidearm of the USA at that time...?
As for who it was, and why, well, that will likely remain a mystery for ever more.
My parents always remembered what they were doing the day JFK was shot, and by a quirk of fate, my father also died on Nov 22nd, 39 years to the day after JFK.
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