New army recruiting drive.

[johnnywb]

It says he REME, so quite possible that he needs to be able to drive.

[Bosshogg76]

Manks said:

Bosshogg76 said:

If you get nicked again? You to stupid to learn from your first transgression?

Obviously. Getting nicked more than once in a lifetime of driving = stupid.

But it's OK, I have a cunning plan, I am going to call myself Private Manks from now on and if...sorry when... I get nicked I'll rely upon my military credentials to get me off.

Manks

Pretty much yes, you are clearly unable to modulate your speed even though you have been given a warning previously. Do you also keep hitting your head on low beams, burning your hands on hot objects? or do you learn from your previous mistakes?

There is no need for your cunning plan, as previously mentioned, simply play on the heart strings of the judge or magistrate. Plead serious financial hard ship. It will also prevent you being caught impersonating an official with intent to deceive.

[Mario149]

Colin 1985 said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1269178/So...

Since when have Imprezas been supercharged?!

[theaxe]

Maybe this was the cop car:

[Manks]

Bosshogg76 said:

Pretty much yes, you are clearly unable to modulate your speed even though you have been given a warning previously. Do you also keep hitting your head on low beams, burning your hands on hot objects? or do you learn from your previous mistakes?

Yes I do still hit my head on low beams and I do very occasionally burn my hand on hot objects. I haven't had a speeding conviction for about ten years, but that may change because I do occasionally speed, usually unintentionally.

Are you suggesting that you do none of these things?

Bosshogg76 said:

There is no need for your cunning plan, as previously mentioned, simply play on the heart strings of the judge or magistrate. Plead serious financial hard ship. It will also prevent you being caught impersonating an official with intent to deceive.

I believe I am right in saying that usually the bench only takes into consideration the hardship to others, not yours. Furthermore it has to be quite a compelling case and it is not simply a case of playing on the heart strings of the JPs.

I have to say BossHogg that if you don't exhibit the same failings as me and others with regard to low beams, hot things and traffic law transgressions you really are quite special. Given that you are also in the military I imagine you must be pretty much a deity.

Manks

[Parrot of Doom]

theaxe said:

Saddle bum said:

Carpie said:

theaxe said:

It's an interesting case but soldier or not 143mph is criminally fast. Perhaps a compromise would be 6 points and a demotion?

Sorry, what? His position at work has nothing to do with it, why should he be demoted? That's ridiculous. Plus the fact that the judge has no power to do it anyway.

Imagine if a sales manager got caught speeding, "Yeah you're going to have to go back to making the tea and work your way up again".

Right.

Not quite, the state both employs him and has the power to punish him for his crimes. Plus it wouldn't be unknown for the army to deal with crimes committed by soliders through the court martial system which has the power to demote.

For example, this guy was both jailed and demoted and one of the guys involved in this was previously demoted for a D&D offence.

Edited by theaxe on Tuesday 27th April 13:41

The state and judiciary are separate entities.

[cs02rm0]

I find it quite conceivable that 143 would be fairly leisurely in the ST. 130 in one on an autobahn certainly feels safer to me than 55 in a Clio felt yesterday on a B road.

Edited by cs02rm0 on Tuesday 27th April 17:29

[Bosshogg76]

Manks said:

Bosshogg76 said:

Pretty much yes, you are clearly unable to modulate your speed even though you have been given a warning previously. Do you also keep hitting your head on low beams, burning your hands on hot objects? or do you learn from your previous mistakes?

Yes I do still hit my head on low beams and I do very occasionally burn my hand on hot objects. I haven't had a speeding conviction for about ten years, but that may change because I do occasionally speed, usually unintentionally.

Are you suggesting that you do none of these things?

Bosshogg76 said:

There is no need for your cunning plan, as previously mentioned, simply play on the heart strings of the judge or magistrate. Plead serious financial hard ship. It will also prevent you being caught impersonating an official with intent to deceive.

I believe I am right in saying that usually the bench only takes into consideration the hardship to others, not yours. Furthermore it has to be quite a compelling case and it is not simply a case of playing on the heart strings of the JPs.

I have to say BossHogg that if you don't exhibit the same failings as me and others with regard to low beams, hot things and traffic law transgressions you really are quite special. Given that you are also in the military I imagine you must be pretty much a deity.

Manks

As you appear to have some semblance of understanding when it comes to these matters, then you will see how crass and ill advised your initial post was. If the man in question was to retain his license, it would be on the grounds that his employer requires that man to keep his license to undertake the tasks issued in the name of the Crown. Not simply for him to drive for his convenience. However this is as likely to happen as a civvy keeping their license in such a situation. Which makes a mockery of your initial post.

As for me being a deity, there maybe a small pygmy tribe in the darkest Amazon that worship a short balding man in a White suit and Stetson who likes to ride in white Cadillac with Bull horns on the front. However when it comes to traffic transgressions, it would indeed appear that I am indeed more special (in a none Benny kind of way)than you. I haven't had don my camouflage cape, and use my special military powers to escape the full weight of the law. As I haven't been found to break any laws. As I learned not to break laws, along with not touching hot objects at quite an early age, and all with out any military influence.

Edited by Bosshogg76 on Tuesday 27th April 17:49

[Jasandjules]

Colin 1985 said:

The judge's leniency has sparked outrage among safety campaigners and critics, with one claiming the soldier's actions were as 'lethal as a speeding bullet'.

My word there is no level of idiocy that "safety" campaigners will not stoop to, is there?

[andy_s]

Common sense I say.

He'll get a roasting but then be off doing things that the 'safety advisor' would fill a growbag with st over, the big pussy.

[MonkeyHanger]

If only he'd been stationed in Germany, no-one would give this a second thought over there.

[eccles]

MonkeyHanger said:

If only he'd been stationed in Germany, no-one would give this a second thought over there.

How would him being based in Germany affect a speeding conviction on the M40?

[Jasandjules]

eccles said:

MonkeyHanger said:

If only he'd been stationed in Germany, no-one would give this a second thought over there.

How would him being based in Germany affect a speeding conviction on the M40?

I suspect the thought process was more that had he been travelling on the Autobahn in a derestricted section of the road that his speed would not have even drawn the attention of plod (hence the use of the "over there").

[eccles]

Jasandjules said:

eccles said:

MonkeyHanger said:

If only he'd been stationed in Germany, no-one would give this a second thought over there.

How would him being based in Germany affect a speeding conviction on the M40?

I suspect the thought process was more that had he been travelling on the Autobahn in a derestricted section of the road that his speed would not have even drawn the attention of plod (hence the use of the "over there").

If he'd been flying in Concorde he could have been doing mach 2 and not got nicked for it as well!

[Manks]

Bosshogg76 said:

If the man in question was to retain his license, it would be on the grounds that his employer requires that man to keep his license to undertake the tasks issued in the name of the Crown. Not simply for him to drive for his convenience. However this is as likely to happen as a civvy keeping their license in such a situation. Which makes a mockery of your initial post.

I disagree, I suspect he got let off a ban because the bench thought it politically correct to do it. I suggest that a civvy would be very, very unlikely to keep his or her license in similar circumstances. A long time ago I was banned for a far lesser speed and my employer very much needed me to be able to drive. It made not a jot of difference.

Bosshogg76 said:

I am indeed more special (in a none Benny kind of way)than you. I haven't had don my camouflage cape, and use my special military powers to escape the full weight of the law. As I haven't been found to break any laws. As I learned not to break laws, along with not touching hot objects at quite an early age, and all with out any military influence.

If you ever leave the forces and become a civil aviation engineer will you let me know which carrier you are with please? I won't fly with any other knowing that someone as infallible as you has been maintaining the fleet.

Manks

Edited by Manks on Tuesday 27th April 21:11

[MonkeyHanger]

Jasandjules said:

I suspect the thought process was more that had he been travelling on the Autobahn in a derestricted section of the road that his speed would not have even drawn the attention of plod (hence the use of the "over there").

I thank you. Not that it really needed explaining.

[LD1Racing]

Mario149 said:

Colin 1985 said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1269178/So...

Since when have Imprezas been supercharged?!

I suggest you look up the definition of supercharging. And I though this was a car forum

[Bosshogg76]

Manks said:

Bosshogg76 said:

If the man in question was to retain his license, it would be on the grounds that his employer requires that man to keep his license to undertake the tasks issued in the name of the Crown. Not simply for him to drive for his convenience. However this is as likely to happen as a civvy keeping their license in such a situation. Which makes a mockery of your initial post.

I disagree, I suspect he got let off a ban because the bench thought it politically correct to do it. I suggest that a civvy would be very, very unlikely to keep his or her license in similar circumstances. A long time ago I was banned for a far lesser speed and my employer very much needed me to be able to drive. It made not a jot of difference.

Bosshogg76 said:

I am indeed more special (in a none Benny kind of way)than you. I haven't had don my camouflage cape, and use my special military powers to escape the full weight of the law. As I haven't been found to break any laws. As I learned not to break laws, along with not touching hot objects at quite an early age, and all with out any military influence.

If you ever leave the forces and become a civil aviation engineer will you let me know which carrier you are with please? I won't fly with any other knowing that someone as infallible as you has been maintaining the fleet.

Manks

Edited by Manks on Tuesday 27th April 21:11

And that is where your and my experience differs, as the guy living opposite, who is a civvy and has no military super powers, retained his license after breaching the 12 point barrier. Perhaps you could employ a better brief next time? or heaven forbid not put yourself in a similar situation again.

I'm afraid you will have to take your life in your own hands with civilian aircraft, as I'm not going to be working on civvie aircraft when I leave. As of yet, nothing I have worked on has dropped out of the sky due to my actions, so that must be a fairly good ratio considering the amount of aircraft I have worked on. Now if you could let me know what industry you work in, so I can give it a wide berth, as I wouldn't want to be involved with someone that is incapable from learning from their mistakes.


Anyway if I was truly infallible I wouldn't have to keep doing these edits

Edited by Bosshogg76 on Tuesday 27th April 22:05

[Manks]

Bosshogg76 said:

And that is where your and my experience differs, as the guy living opposite, who is a civvy and has no military super powers, retained his license after breaching the 12 point barrier. Perhaps you could employ a better brief next time? or heaven forbid not put yourself in a similar situation again.

I very much doubt you know the full circumstances surrounding your neighbour's speeding offence. It is not particularly unusual for JPs to not ban on totting up someone who reaches or exceeds twelve points. It is unusual for them not to ban someone travelling at over twice the speed limit. And as I have already said I strongly suspect that their decision was made with some stupid populist notion in mind.

Bosshogg76 said:

Now if you could let me know what industry you work in, so I can give it a wide berth, as I wouldn't want to be involved with someone that is incapable from learning from their mistakes.

General business, but I have a fair bit of rented property some of which is tenanted by ex miltary types, many of whom discovered when they left the forces that the sun didn't shine out of their arsies after all. They can be a bit of a nuisance actually but I keep taking the feckless tw4ts on because, as we have established, I don't learn from my mistakes.

Manks

[Bosshogg76]

Manks said:

Bosshogg76 said:

And that is where your and my experience differs, as the guy living opposite, who is a civvy and has no military super powers, retained his license after breaching the 12 point barrier. Perhaps you could employ a better brief next time? or heaven forbid not put yourself in a similar situation again.

I very much doubt you know the full circumstances surrounding your neighbour's speeding offence. It is not particularly unusual for JPs to not ban on totting up someone who reaches or exceeds twelve points. It is unusual for them not to ban someone travelling at over twice the speed limit. And as I have already said I strongly suspect that their decision was made with some stupid populist notion in mind.

Bosshogg76 said:

Now if you could let me know what industry you work in, so I can give it a wide berth, as I wouldn't want to be involved with someone that is incapable from learning from their mistakes.

General business, but I have a fair bit of rented property some of which is tenanted by ex miltary types, many of whom discovered when they left the forces that the sun didn't shine out of their arsies after all. They can be a bit of a nuisance actually but I keep taking the feckless tw4ts on because, as we have established, I don't learn from my mistakes.

Manks

Doubt away, no skin off my nose.

Ahh General Business is that a catch all for, jack of all trades and master of none? at least you have a side line as Slum Lord to fall back on, good luck with that.

I'll just stay in my own house if you don't mind. Saves having a feckless landlord with an inferiority complex.

Anyway it's been thrilling chatting with you and your chip today. I'd better pop off to bed, I have another day of excellence to get through tomorrow. I do hope I can get to sleep as I like a darkened room, but not sure if the light emanating from my posterior will keep me awake.

More edits it would appear my infallibility is worse than I thought

Edited by Bosshogg76 on Tuesday 27th April 22:40