Bradford murders......

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10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

219 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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dreamz said:
this is going to be something like law abiding citizen where he'll beat the ssystem and walk out
Didn't he end up getting blown to pieces in his prison cell?

Silent1

19,761 posts

237 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Rusty Arches said:
Why can't serial killers target chavs and real criminals?
He did.

dreamz

5,265 posts

195 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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10 Pence Short said:
dreamz said:
this is going to be something like law abiding citizen where he'll beat the ssystem and walk out
Didn't he end up getting blown to pieces in his prison cell?
st ending i reckon. like he wouldnt have booby trapped the end bomb.

i bet this is going to be a st ending too. he'll just plead guilty and no bomb.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

264 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Silent1 said:
Rusty Arches said:
Why can't serial killers target chavs and real criminals?
He did.
nono Uncalled for mate.


OzzyR1

5,764 posts

234 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Dan_1981 said:
Studying criminology and psychology.
He must be only half way through is course though, or else he'd have found out what happens at the end, the life without parole bit.

paddyhasneeds

51,939 posts

212 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Serious question - are prostitutes referred to as "sex workers" by some media for a specific reason or is it like bin men becoming "refuse collectors"?

Silent1

19,761 posts

237 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Mojocvh said:
Silent1 said:
Rusty Arches said:
Why can't serial killers target chavs and real criminals?
He did.
nono Uncalled for mate.
So is suggesting anyone should be murdered.

RonnieP

1,153 posts

229 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Silent1 said:
Mojocvh said:
Silent1 said:
Rusty Arches said:
Why can't serial killers target chavs and real criminals?
He did.
nono Uncalled for mate.
So is suggesting anyone should be murdered.
What a total tosspot - to avoid confusion referring to you Silent1

Randy Winkman

16,389 posts

191 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Silent1 said:
Rusty Arches said:
Why can't serial killers target chavs and real criminals?
He did.
You're a .

Randy Winkman

16,389 posts

191 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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Randy Winkman said:
Silent1 said:
Rusty Arches said:
Why can't serial killers target chavs and real criminals?
He did.
You're a .
I've deleted my follow up post as this is a "family site"

Edited by Randy Winkman on Friday 28th May 21:46

The Riddler

6,565 posts

199 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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RonnieP said:
Silent1 said:
Mojocvh said:
Silent1 said:
Rusty Arches said:
Why can't serial killers target chavs and real criminals?
He did.
nono Uncalled for mate.
So is suggesting anyone should be murdered.
What a total tosspot - to avoid confusion referring to you Silent1
Randy Winkman said:
Randy Winkman said:
Silent1 said:
Rusty Arches said:
Why can't serial killers target chavs and real criminals?
He did.
You're a .
I've deleted my follow up post as this is a "family site"

Edited by Randy Winkman on Friday 28th May 21:46
May I be as bold as to ask what has offended the pair of you?

The 'women' he (apparently) killed were chavs and criminals. And suggesting anyone should die isnt exactly a nice thing to say.

Did your fathers have habits?

Dan_1981

Original Poster:

17,424 posts

201 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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I was wondering exactly the same thing?

90% of PH spends all day complaining that we're too easy on petty criminals, chavs, smack addicts and so forth.

I am in no way condoning what the "Crossbow Cannibal" has done, or saying that these three women deserved what they got, but we're not exactly talking about fine upstanding members of the community here are we?

I'll add a smiley just to over compensate as well. wink

Silent1

19,761 posts

237 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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The Riddler said:
RonnieP said:
Silent1 said:
Mojocvh said:
Silent1 said:
Rusty Arches said:
Why can't serial killers target chavs and real criminals?
He did.
nono Uncalled for mate.
So is suggesting anyone should be murdered.
What a total tosspot - to avoid confusion referring to you Silent1
Randy Winkman said:
Randy Winkman said:
Silent1 said:
Rusty Arches said:
Why can't serial killers target chavs and real criminals?
He did.
You're a .
I've deleted my follow up post as this is a "family site"

Edited by Randy Winkman on Friday 28th May 21:46
May I be as bold as to ask what has offended the pair of you?

The 'women' he (apparently) killed were chavs and criminals. And suggesting anyone should die isnt exactly a nice thing to say.

Did your fathers have habits?
Indeed, it seems very odd that i'm getting abuse for suggesting he did kill some chavs and criminals and then when i've qualified it by suggesting no-one should ever suggest anyone should be murdered apparently i'm the ?

Edited by Silent1 on Friday 28th May 23:54

Randy Winkman

16,389 posts

191 months

Friday 28th May 2010
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The problem I had was that Rusty Arches post was general, yours was specific. I can see sense in your justification though.

Dan_1981

Original Poster:

17,424 posts

201 months

Saturday 29th May 2010
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Found some more bits by the sounds of things....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10190439.stm


Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

210 months

Saturday 29th May 2010
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Just because the guy appears to be going for the insanity defence doesn’t mean he isn’t insane.

Many years ago a defendant tried to avoid the consequences of his actions by convincing a jury that he was guilty but insane.

Subsequent re-examination of the case revealed that the accused was insane. However, he had failed to comprehend his own insanity and this caused his downfall.

Mistakenly believing himself sane, he set out to deceive the jury.

The jury saw through his deliberate attempts and found him guilty. Since this was prior to the abolition of capital punishment, he was hanged.

Had he realised and accepted his own insanity then he would have probably cooperated with the professionals attempting to conduct his defence. Since he believed himself sane and therefore guilty, he tried to deceive his own counsel and medical experts. This obstructed their ability to mount a proper defence.

I forget the name of the defendant, but the case became one of those used in the argument to abolish capital punishment.

Perhaps we are seeing something similar, since the background information currently available suggests he is likely to have some degree of mental health issues.


Escort2dr

3,619 posts

203 months

Saturday 29th May 2010
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Uncle Fester said:
he is likely to have some degree of mental health issues.
No st, Sherlock.

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

178 months

Saturday 29th May 2010
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Uncle Fester said:
Just because the guy appears to be going for the insanity defence doesn’t mean he isn’t insane.

Many years ago a defendant tried to avoid the consequences of his actions by convincing a jury that he was guilty but insane.

Subsequent re-examination of the case revealed that the accused was insane. However, he had failed to comprehend his own insanity and this caused his downfall.

Mistakenly believing himself sane, he set out to deceive the jury.

The jury saw through his deliberate attempts and found him guilty. Since this was prior to the abolition of capital punishment, he was hanged.

Had he realised and accepted his own insanity then he would have probably cooperated with the professionals attempting to conduct his defence. Since he believed himself sane and therefore guilty, he tried to deceive his own counsel and medical experts. This obstructed their ability to mount a proper defence.

I forget the name of the defendant, but the case became one of those used in the argument to abolish capital punishment.

Perhaps we are seeing something similar, since the background information currently available suggests he is likely to have some degree of mental health issues.
Thankfully I'm no pyschologist but always wonder when people debate if killers who murder, torture etc. for no obvious reason (i.e. no prior link to the victims or revenge or monetary gain aspect etc.) are insane . .

How could anyone who does such things ever be considered sane?

oobster

7,120 posts

213 months

Tuesday 21st December 2010
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The nutter had pleaded (or pled?) guilty this morning.