Britains Fattest Woman Dies

[Plotloss]

I want the family served with the £10K bill on the day of her funeral.

Hateful s.

Mind you, that said, 12,000 calories a day because you're a bit stressed?

fk off love, you like the buns, if you were really stressed you'd take to the booze and fags which crucify appetite. I'm slimmer than I've been in years, let this be a lesson to you fatty.

[pugwash4x4]

Plotloss said:

if you were really stressed you'd take to the booze and fags which crucify appetite. I'm slimmer than I've been in years, let this be a lesson to you fatty.

not me- don't drink, but god i can gorge myself on sweets when i'm stressed.

[Marty Funkhouser]

wiggy001 said:

Marty Funkhouser said:

wiggy001 said:

Disgusting misuse of taxpayers' money imho

Why?

If the operation had been successful it would have undoubtedly saved the NHS (as well as social services) hundreds of thousands of pounds over the remainder of her life.

Because I am of the view that public funds should not be used to help those that refuse to help themselves, especially not when it's to the tune of hundreds of thousands of pounds and definitely not when we refuse cancer treatments and the like on the grounds of the drugs being too expensive.

Every penny of her "treatment" should have come from her own bank account, nowhere else.

I assume you apply the same logic to smoker & drinkers? What about Sunday afternoon footballers who break their leg? Where do you draw the line?

[Plotloss]

Smokers and drinkers pay more in tax than they consume in healthcare arising from smoking and drinking related illnesses.

I've said for years a tax should be introduced on the nutritional value of food.

[Marty Funkhouser]

Plotloss said:

Smokers and drinkers pay more in tax than they consume in healthcare arising from smoking and drinking related illnesses.

I've said for years a tax should be introduced on the nutritional value of food.

I wouldnt have a problem with that.

I just dont believe we should pcik and choose who the NHS helps and who it doesnt. Obesity is a life threatening condition and in a lot of cases there are far more complex underlying psychological reasons behind their appetities than simply "laying off the buns".

[Marty Funkhouser]

Plotloss said:

It's one thing the NHS helping someone, its entirely another helping someone and then their family actively seeking to undo that assistance.

Agreed. Like I said before, its verging on criminality IMO.

[Plotloss]

It's one thing the NHS helping someone, its entirely another helping someone and then their family actively seeking to undo that assistance.

[supersingle]

There's too much hate on this thread.

I feel sorry for this unfortunate lady and her family. Don't forget they've lost their Mum. Let he who is without sin, etc...

[HundredthIdiot]

Plotloss said:

I've said for years a tax should be introduced on the nutritional value of food.

What you talking about Willis?

Like, more calories = more tax? A bag of sugar would cost a fortune.

My BMI is 20.3. Why should I have to pay more for all the food I eat?

Forget gastric bands, just surgically remove their taste buds when they hit 20 stone.

[Marty Funkhouser]

HundredthIdiot said:

Plotloss said:

I've said for years a tax should be introduced on the nutritional value of food.

What you talking about Willis?

Like, more calories = more tax? A bag of sugar would cost a fortune.

My BMI is 20.3. Why should I have to pay more for all the food I eat?

Forget gastric bands, just surgically remove their taste buds when they hit 20 stone.

No but you could tax certain foods - so an apple has no tax to pay while a mars bar has a fat tax on it....wouldnt be a solution but its a step in the right direction.

[wiggy001]

supersingle said:

There's too much hate on this thread.

I feel sorry for this unfortunate lady and her family. Don't forget they've lost their Mum. Let he who is without sin, etc...

Why is she unfortunate? it seems to me she was given a wealth of advice which she chose to ignore, a £10,000 operation to further help her "condition", £120,000+ stay at the priory... would you feel the same if it was drug addict and heroin in this story rather than a fat bird and pies?

To answer the earlier poster that asked if I'd extend the same line of thought to drinkers and smokers - if they'd been given the same amount of treatment and advice as this lady then damn right I would!

[wiggy001]

Marty Funkhouser said:

HundredthIdiot said:

Plotloss said:

I've said for years a tax should be introduced on the nutritional value of food.

What you talking about Willis?

Like, more calories = more tax? A bag of sugar would cost a fortune.

My BMI is 20.3. Why should I have to pay more for all the food I eat?

Forget gastric bands, just surgically remove their taste buds when they hit 20 stone.

No but you could tax certain foods - so an apple has no tax to pay while a mars bar has a fat tax on it....wouldnt be a solution but its a step in the right direction.

That's already done to an extent - food that is deemed a luxury has VAT added.

[Boozy]

Buzz word said:

I usually suffer for compassion in these cases but I recognise the son from down the gym. I guess as its a bit closer to home I just feel sorry for the lad and his siblings losing their mum so young.

Is he a crash mat?

[JuniorD]

I would not advocate using taxation as a way to save us from ourselves, much in the way I am opposed to tax being used as an incentice to save the planet. In any case, there already a tax on luxury foods with essential foods zero rated for tax.

Jonny Steel spokesman for mySupermarket.co.uk said:

"There are some strange discrepancies between the types of foods that qualify for VAT, making it hard to predict where the increase will hit shoppers most."

Top tips for those wanting to avoid the tax rise include buying wheat-based snacks or tortilla chips instead of potato crisps, as well as buying ''freshly baked food'' from supermarket bakeries while it is still warm, rather than ''takeaway hot food'' from the takeaway counter, as this will attract VAT.

When buying gingerbread men, check how much chocolate they have on them – any more than a few dots for the eyes and you will be paying VAT.

Perhaps the most important thing to remember concerns nuts and dried fruit. If you buy them in the baking aisle, you're probably not paying any tax, but if you buy them from the snack aisle you'll be paying the full 20pc VAT. Given that you're probably paying a markup for packaging anyway, it makes sense to buy them in bigger bags.

This reminds me of the Jaffa cake/biscuit VAT case

Edited by JuniorD on Tuesday 27th July 17:29

[Lost soul]

wiggy001 said:

supersingle said:

There's too much hate on this thread.

I feel sorry for this unfortunate lady and her family. Don't forget they've lost their Mum. Let he who is without sin, etc...

Why is she unfortunate? it seems to me she was given a wealth of advice which she chose to ignore, a £10,000 operation to further help her "condition", £120,000+ stay at the priory... would you feel the same if it was drug addict and heroin in this story rather than a fat bird and pies?

Its not a matter of too much hate its a matter of people being sick and tired of tales like this where we are expected to feel sorry for someone who did not help them self

She was a drain on the NHS and had no intention of helping her self , what a waste of NHSS cash

[Lost soul]

supersingle said:

Don't forget they've lost their Mum. Let he who is without sin, etc...

I do not feel sorry for them at all lets not foget they helped speed her death

[HundredthIdiot]

Marty Funkhouser said:

No but you could tax certain foods - so an apple has no tax to pay while a mars bar has a fat tax on it....wouldnt be a solution but its a step in the right direction.

Well, possibly. I can't see it being very simple though. Taxes are bad, complicated taxes are evil.

I make ice cream out of eggs, milk, skimmed milk powder and sugar. If you introduce a tax on ice cream, the fatties will just make their own. If you put the tax on cane sugar, it'll have to cost about £100 a bag.

With respect to this case, it just makes me sad that someone would do that to themselves.

I prefer laughing at fatties than reading about their deaths. I'm sensitive like that.

[Marty Funkhouser]

HundredthIdiot said:

Marty Funkhouser said:

No but you could tax certain foods - so an apple has no tax to pay while a mars bar has a fat tax on it....wouldnt be a solution but its a step in the right direction.

Well, possibly. I can't see it being very simple though. Taxes are bad, complicated taxes are evil.

I make ice cream out of eggs, milk, skimmed milk powder and sugar. If you introduce a tax on ice cream, the fatties will just make their own. If you put the tax on cane sugar, it'll have to cost about £100 a bag.

With respect to this case, it just makes me sad that someone would do that to themselves.

I prefer laughing at fatties than reading about their deaths. I'm sensitive like that.

I know, its not perfect but undoubtedly it will deter some and also hopefully price kids out of a constant diet of rubbish.

[Plotloss]

HundredthIdiot said:

Plotloss said:

I've said for years a tax should be introduced on the nutritional value of food.

What you talking about Willis?

Like, more calories = more tax? A bag of sugar would cost a fortune.

My BMI is 20.3. Why should I have to pay more for all the food I eat?

Forget gastric bands, just surgically remove their taste buds when they hit 20 stone.

No but something a bit more elegant than that.

So a turkey twizzler would be taxed out of sight yet fresh chicken breast would stay at a similar price to the market value.

[supersingle]

We live in a nation where the nanny state takes total responsibility for people's welfare. We shouldn't blame people who relinquish all responsibility for themselves. They are the victims of government largess.

We should be blaming ourselves for allowing the state to become so huge and all powerful.