Would other countries be as 'willing' to help UK/US?
Discussion
Eric Mc said:
UK is definitely not second in the world - although how you measure a nation's "richness" is debateable.
If the richness of an individual is defined by how many persons he or she can count on as friends, then perhaps it is true of countries as well .. i think the UK does pretty well in this respect.fido said:
Eric Mc said:
UK is definitely not second in the world - although how you measure a nation's "richness" is debateable.
If the richness of an individual is defined by how many persons he or she can count on as friends, then perhaps it is true of countries as well .. i think the UK does pretty well in this respect.This is going to raise a few hackles, but here we go anyway.
Nope, no need. We just do not get the type of issues on such a massive scale over here, and when we do get our feet a bit wet, we cope rather than hold our hands out and wail in the streets.
Floods, earthquakes - well, it is quite common there, so surely it's time for their government to stop spending on weapons and private jets, and up their DR plans.
And, whilst feeling sorry for the innocent victims, I am getting seriously fed up with putting my hand in my pocket (via my wife... "oh look at those poor suffering children", kerching, overdraft) every year at Red Nose Day for a number of reasons.
1) the corrupt governments should have enough cash to sort it out, after all they siphoned lots of it from similar charitable donations in the past
2) since the last "disastrous famine", the populous has continued to breed like rabbits and suffer whilst the rich ruling few live a life of Reilly
3) the unaddressed, massive issues around the promiscuity and generally believed concept that shagging a virgin gets rid of aids
4) no matter how much food, cash and education you throw at these people, it's the same every red nose day, and added to by the aids issue over the last few years. The videos of success stories shown are addressing a symptom, not the problem IMO.
Now I don't know about you, but I tend to think that artificially prolonging the life of an HIV person in such a backward and promiscuous society, surely is only going to make the 3rd world aids epidemic bigger as that individual distributes his plague wider whilst living longer. It's sad that an individual suffers, but it could be argued that it is for the greater good of the populous (and small babies raped by sufferers trying to guarantee virgin status for their cure).
Similarly, the population has outstripped the ability of the land to provide for the people. So the famine is a natural response to that, and we need to address the population issue rather than trying to feed it and encourage a greater dependence on third parties.
It's a big problem. Beyond me and my overdraft limit to solve. Until the root problems are addressed, my cash is a wasted donation, and will continue to go to the Air Ambulance and Cancer Research.
Dons flameproof suit.
Nope, no need. We just do not get the type of issues on such a massive scale over here, and when we do get our feet a bit wet, we cope rather than hold our hands out and wail in the streets.
Floods, earthquakes - well, it is quite common there, so surely it's time for their government to stop spending on weapons and private jets, and up their DR plans.
And, whilst feeling sorry for the innocent victims, I am getting seriously fed up with putting my hand in my pocket (via my wife... "oh look at those poor suffering children", kerching, overdraft) every year at Red Nose Day for a number of reasons.
1) the corrupt governments should have enough cash to sort it out, after all they siphoned lots of it from similar charitable donations in the past
2) since the last "disastrous famine", the populous has continued to breed like rabbits and suffer whilst the rich ruling few live a life of Reilly
3) the unaddressed, massive issues around the promiscuity and generally believed concept that shagging a virgin gets rid of aids
4) no matter how much food, cash and education you throw at these people, it's the same every red nose day, and added to by the aids issue over the last few years. The videos of success stories shown are addressing a symptom, not the problem IMO.
Now I don't know about you, but I tend to think that artificially prolonging the life of an HIV person in such a backward and promiscuous society, surely is only going to make the 3rd world aids epidemic bigger as that individual distributes his plague wider whilst living longer. It's sad that an individual suffers, but it could be argued that it is for the greater good of the populous (and small babies raped by sufferers trying to guarantee virgin status for their cure).
Similarly, the population has outstripped the ability of the land to provide for the people. So the famine is a natural response to that, and we need to address the population issue rather than trying to feed it and encourage a greater dependence on third parties.
It's a big problem. Beyond me and my overdraft limit to solve. Until the root problems are addressed, my cash is a wasted donation, and will continue to go to the Air Ambulance and Cancer Research.
Dons flameproof suit.
SeeFive said:
This is going to raise a few hackles, but here we go anyway.
Nope, no need. We just do not get the type of issues on such a massive scale over here, and when we do get our feet a bit wet, we cope rather than hold our hands out and wail in the streets.
Floods, earthquakes - well, it is quite common there, so surely it's time for their government to stop spending on weapons and private jets, and up their DR plans.
And, whilst feeling sorry for the innocent victims, I am getting seriously fed up with putting my hand in my pocket (via my wife... "oh look at those poor suffering children", kerching, overdraft) every year at Red Nose Day for a number of reasons.
1) the corrupt governments should have enough cash to sort it out, after all they siphoned lots of it from similar charitable donations in the past
2) since the last "disastrous famine", the populous has continued to breed like rabbits and suffer whilst the rich ruling few live a life of Reilly
3) the unaddressed, massive issues around the promiscuity and generally believed concept that shagging a virgin gets rid of aids
4) no matter how much food, cash and education you throw at these people, it's the same every red nose day, and added to by the aids issue over the last few years. The videos of success stories shown are addressing a symptom, not the problem IMO.
Now I don't know about you, but I tend to think that artificially prolonging the life of an HIV person in such a backward and promiscuous society, surely is only going to make the 3rd world aids epidemic bigger as that individual distributes his plague wider whilst living longer. It's sad that an individual suffers, but it could be argued that it is for the greater good of the populous (and small babies raped by sufferers trying to guarantee virgin status for their cure).
Similarly, the population has outstripped the ability of the land to provide for the people. So the famine is a natural response to that, and we need to address the population issue rather than trying to feed it and encourage a greater dependence on third parties.
It's a big problem. Beyond me and my overdraft limit to solve. Until the root problems are addressed, my cash is a wasted donation, and will continue to go to the Air Ambulance and Cancer Research.
Dons flameproof suit.
See, I've been having a row with somebody about this sort of thing on Facebook and my arguments aren't on the same topic (more about the aid to Pakistan) but have a similar train of thought. It's not a very PC thing to say nowadays how you should look after your own first, but I think there is a lot to be said in agreement with it.Nope, no need. We just do not get the type of issues on such a massive scale over here, and when we do get our feet a bit wet, we cope rather than hold our hands out and wail in the streets.
Floods, earthquakes - well, it is quite common there, so surely it's time for their government to stop spending on weapons and private jets, and up their DR plans.
And, whilst feeling sorry for the innocent victims, I am getting seriously fed up with putting my hand in my pocket (via my wife... "oh look at those poor suffering children", kerching, overdraft) every year at Red Nose Day for a number of reasons.
1) the corrupt governments should have enough cash to sort it out, after all they siphoned lots of it from similar charitable donations in the past
2) since the last "disastrous famine", the populous has continued to breed like rabbits and suffer whilst the rich ruling few live a life of Reilly
3) the unaddressed, massive issues around the promiscuity and generally believed concept that shagging a virgin gets rid of aids
4) no matter how much food, cash and education you throw at these people, it's the same every red nose day, and added to by the aids issue over the last few years. The videos of success stories shown are addressing a symptom, not the problem IMO.
Now I don't know about you, but I tend to think that artificially prolonging the life of an HIV person in such a backward and promiscuous society, surely is only going to make the 3rd world aids epidemic bigger as that individual distributes his plague wider whilst living longer. It's sad that an individual suffers, but it could be argued that it is for the greater good of the populous (and small babies raped by sufferers trying to guarantee virgin status for their cure).
Similarly, the population has outstripped the ability of the land to provide for the people. So the famine is a natural response to that, and we need to address the population issue rather than trying to feed it and encourage a greater dependence on third parties.
It's a big problem. Beyond me and my overdraft limit to solve. Until the root problems are addressed, my cash is a wasted donation, and will continue to go to the Air Ambulance and Cancer Research.
Dons flameproof suit.
TuxRacer said:
amare32 said:
I think this would be the case, when New Orleans was flooded you certainly didn't hear about other countries opening up their wallets to assist with the aid effort..
I barely heard about the US opening their wallet though, to be fair.fido said:
I'm sure they would be willing to help, but there are always strings attached with any sort of help - even when it's between friends. Btw the UK is still paying for the help it received over fifty years ago ... still a quarter of 1 big one to go ..
http://chrisworth.com/2005/05/uks-debt-to-usa-gett...
That ended 4 years ago.....check your article's date. http://chrisworth.com/2005/05/uks-debt-to-usa-gett...
You do realize that, with the near zero interest rate, that it was advantageous for the U.K. to pay over that many years, don't you? I believe it was their choice to do so.Brink said:
Them down-under would give us helping hand, I'm sure. The Ozzies offers to help out with Argies in 1982. The yanks would hesitate and eventually, in return for some new invention...
We jump to help everyone with a natural disaster, what makes you think we wouldn't help you? As long as everyone does not have your attitude, we will be right there.Jimbeaux said:
Brink said:
Them down-under would give us helping hand, I'm sure. The Ozzies offers to help out with Argies in 1982. The yanks would hesitate and eventually, in return for some new invention...
We jump to help everyone with a natural disaster, what makes you think we wouldn't help you? As long as everyone does not have your attitude, we will be right there.
And then there's the friendly fire problem....172ff said:
If Pakistan has enough money to develop nuclear weapons, they have enough cash to sort out there own problems. IMO of course.
like the UK?we cant even give our kids good school buildings!!
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also worth bearing in mind the UK has much better infrastructure and people to deal with our own problems - i think lack of skills and equipment is the killer for poorer palces like Pakistan - and also the fact the poorer peopel cannot afford to buy their own way out of trouble - i.e find hotels etc
Mojooo said:
172ff said:
If Pakistan has enough money to develop nuclear weapons, they have enough cash to sort out there own problems. IMO of course.
and also the fact the poorer peopel cannot afford to buy their own way out of trouble - i.e find hotels etcBrink said:
Jimbeaux said:
Brink said:
Them down-under would give us helping hand, I'm sure. The Ozzies offers to help out with Argies in 1982. The yanks would hesitate and eventually, in return for some new invention...
We jump to help everyone with a natural disaster, what makes you think we wouldn't help you? As long as everyone does not have your attitude, we will be right there. And then there's the friendly fire problem....
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