Uk Goverment to block Internet porn by default
Discussion
TuxRacer said:
petemurphy said:
if its a case of easily unblocking it like changing google safe search to off i dont see the problem. if its complex and you have to write to the isp and state i'd like a shufty now then its rubbish.
Yeah, what could go wrong with a database of who watches porn? 
Great idea, in theory - It's going to have the UK churning out more IT whizzes than India and China combined could ever hope.
AndrewW-G said:
No children here, so why should I have to apply for permission to access certain sites . . . . . and people wonder why I think that bulls
t like this and the behaviour of wkers like Assange, will effect everybody elses freedoms in the long run 
You shouldn't and you won't. And it sounds like that's not even being proposed. And you can't reasonably blame Assange for politicians acting like this. If anything the likes of him bring this sort of farce into public view where we can all see it for what it is.t like this and the behaviour of wkers like Assange, will effect everybody elses freedoms in the long run 
TuxRacer said:
petemurphy said:
if its a case of easily unblocking it like changing google safe search to off i dont see the problem. if its complex and you have to write to the isp and state i'd like a shufty now then its rubbish.
Yeah, what could go wrong with a database of who watches porn? 
TuxRacer said:
AndrewW-G said:
No children here, so why should I have to apply for permission to access certain sites . . . . . and people wonder why I think that bullst like this and the behaviour of wkers like Assange, will effect everybody elses freedoms in the long run
You shouldn't and you won't. And it sounds like that's not even being proposed. And you can't reasonably blame Assange for politicians acting like this. If anything the likes of him bring this sort of farce into public view where we can all see it for what it is.t like this and the behaviour of wkers like Assange, will effect everybody elses freedoms in the long run As for the Assange and wikiw
ks, by publishing the things that he has, he's given governments the world over, a fking good excuse to legislate against net freedom.All they have to do now, is pass a law that allows them to ban access to websites under terror legislation, which is something that would easily expanded to include other sorts of sites on the grounds of national security.
If you want a good example, think about what happened with the terror laws relating to surveillance, that were well intentioned to start with, but then subverted to allow all sorts of stupidity like allowing councils to snoop on peoples bins and follow people to make sure they lived in a catchment area for a secondary school.
We currently have a good thing with the internet being relatively free of legislation, people doing f
king stupid and irresponsible things, will just fk it up for everybody. . . . . . . . . and before people say it, yes I know that you could use a proxy to bypass any national filter, the problem then is that you will then draw attention to what you’re doing and leave yourself open to investigation as the police will only ever think the worse and aim for a result that will help their prosecution stats.
I still don't buy this notion that any one government can control the internet.
It's really difficult to accurately distinguish traffic types by content, especially when that content may be encrypted, incomplete or hidden from view or all three. It's also difficult to draw a dividing line between internet connected users who do not wish to be kept apart. It's even more difficult for a government to do so for all citizens.
They'd have to throw it away and start again and we're so heavily invested that I think that would be unlikely for some time.
It's really difficult to accurately distinguish traffic types by content, especially when that content may be encrypted, incomplete or hidden from view or all three. It's also difficult to draw a dividing line between internet connected users who do not wish to be kept apart. It's even more difficult for a government to do so for all citizens.
They'd have to throw it away and start again and we're so heavily invested that I think that would be unlikely for some time.
TuxRacer said:
I still don't buy this notion that any one government can control the internet.
It's really difficult to accurately distinguish traffic types by content, especially when that content may be encrypted, incomplete or hidden from view or all three. It's also difficult to draw a dividing line between internet connected users who do not wish to be kept apart. It's even more difficult for a government to do so for all citizens.
They'd have to throw it away and start again and we're so heavily invested that I think that would be unlikely for some time.
Like China I think it'll be implemented as a site blacklist for HTTP/web addresses. This will prevent most of the 'think of the children' morons from accidentally accessing porn at least.It's really difficult to accurately distinguish traffic types by content, especially when that content may be encrypted, incomplete or hidden from view or all three. It's also difficult to draw a dividing line between internet connected users who do not wish to be kept apart. It's even more difficult for a government to do so for all citizens.
They'd have to throw it away and start again and we're so heavily invested that I think that would be unlikely for some time.
ringram said:
Great, now to define what Porn is.
Crutchless? Topless? Buttocks? Or only full Burka pics acceptable?
Start the lobbying now. Ban pictures of humans from the internet. No exposed flesh.
Maybe its just easier to ban the internet.
Probably anything that Google Safesearch blocks out? Crutchless? Topless? Buttocks? Or only full Burka pics acceptable?
Start the lobbying now. Ban pictures of humans from the internet. No exposed flesh.
Maybe its just easier to ban the internet.
ringram said:
Great, now to define what Porn is.
Crutchless? Topless? Buttocks? Or only full Burka pics acceptable?
Start the lobbying now. Ban pictures of humans from the internet. No exposed flesh.
Maybe its just easier to ban the internet.
Crutchless ? What does that mean? Anyone who can walk normally ?Crutchless? Topless? Buttocks? Or only full Burka pics acceptable?
Start the lobbying now. Ban pictures of humans from the internet. No exposed flesh.
Maybe its just easier to ban the internet.
sinizter said:
ringram said:
Great, now to define what Porn is.
Crutchless? Topless? Buttocks? Or only full Burka pics acceptable?
Start the lobbying now. Ban pictures of humans from the internet. No exposed flesh.
Maybe its just easier to ban the internet.
Crutchless ? What does that mean? Anyone who can walk normally ?Crutchless? Topless? Buttocks? Or only full Burka pics acceptable?
Start the lobbying now. Ban pictures of humans from the internet. No exposed flesh.
Maybe its just easier to ban the internet.
First they came for the porn...
Diabolical! Just the kind of things I voted for the Conservatives to oppose. This is nothing to do with porn. What they propose is implementing an infrastructure to allow government control of the internet (or some 'independent' mouthpiece).
There is no problem with accidental accessing of porn. 5 years ago yes, you'd get dodgy popups but it's honestly been years since I 'accidentally' found adult material. The market successfully self-regulated.
Honestly, they are proposing a system that would allow this thread, this site to be blocked at the whim of the ruling party. Be that the conservatives or any future party.
The scope of the project would expand before it was launched (of course at 10x original budget)
Diabolical! Just the kind of things I voted for the Conservatives to oppose. This is nothing to do with porn. What they propose is implementing an infrastructure to allow government control of the internet (or some 'independent' mouthpiece).
There is no problem with accidental accessing of porn. 5 years ago yes, you'd get dodgy popups but it's honestly been years since I 'accidentally' found adult material. The market successfully self-regulated.
Honestly, they are proposing a system that would allow this thread, this site to be blocked at the whim of the ruling party. Be that the conservatives or any future party.
The scope of the project would expand before it was launched (of course at 10x original budget)
Edited by rpguk on Sunday 19th December 21:19
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