Lottery winners/Maths - it's all lies :o)

[matthewg]

RemainAllHoof said:

Same numbers twice in 6 weeks. Brilliant. Why? Because it's completely random and can happen.

Here comes a 20/30 page thread...!

[Derek Smith]

Muzzer said:

It's £2 a week.

She's hardly sticking all the giro money on the 2.30 at Kempston....

As TVR suggests, perhaps her £2 lottery flutter is instead of a pint at the local or a copy of Woman's Own or something.

It may only be £300, but it's her £300.

I agree.

What's wrong with a little bet? £2 per week and therefore it is a tax on the stupid? I can't see the logic there.

Never played a fruit machine? That too pays out 72p for every £1 that goes through it. It is written on the machine somewhere. Further, how much do you think bookmakers make out of 'normal' gambling?

The form of gambling that pays out the best odds is bingo. In addition to that there is the social side - not my cup of tea but then I suppose many of them would not want my life. You can get evens in a casino in this country, well more or less. It's a bet in craps. But everything else is a tax.

If you get a kick out of betting, in whatever form you use, then it can be fun. £2 per week seems controlled and reasonable. And, of course, she got a result.

There is limited opportunity for someone like her, on £300pw, to win big. She's cracked it.

I buy two scratchcards a week. I take my wife for the weekly shop, sit in the cafe with a latte and do some work then, when my wife has finished shopping, she buys herself a cappuccino, me a filter coffee and we then see if we've won anything. We do them individually, getting excited when we get two £100,000 come up in the first line. Each 'go' will cost me, over time, 0.28p. Seems reasonable to me.

As you say, it is her money.

[youngsyr]

boredofmyoldname said:

Those who are most in need of extra cash often chase the quick easy returns offered by things like the lottery.

You rarely see a high street bookies or provincial Bingo hall being frequented by wealthy business men and their trophy brides.

Never been to Vegas then? Judging by some of the stakes I saw being played, there were plenty of (soon to be un) wealthy people there. Same concept, just a (arguably) nicer environment.

[boredofmyoldname]

youngsyr said:

boredofmyoldname said:

Those who are most in need of extra cash often chase the quick easy returns offered by things like the lottery.

You rarely see a high street bookies or provincial Bingo hall being frequented by wealthy business men and their trophy brides.

Never been to Vegas then? Judging by some of the stakes I saw being played, there were plenty of (soon to be un) wealthy people there. Same concept, just a (arguably) nicer environment.

I know wealthy people like to gamble, that is pretty much all city trading is in a nutshell. Days at the races are expensive and more likely to attract wealthy than poor people. But the examples I gave are the easily accessible forms of gaming that exist in most towns and cities around the UK.

[Corsair7]

trackdemon said:

Er, if you can't afford kids don't bl00dy pro-create? Simple enough to do, right? Surely the pill, condoms, a vasectomy or whatever is cheaper than supporting a family....

What a knobhed.

[ewenm]

Corsair7 said:

trackdemon said:

Er, if you can't afford kids don't bl00dy pro-create? Simple enough to do, right? Surely the pill, condoms, a vasectomy or whatever is cheaper than supporting a family....

What a knobhed.

Affordability was certainly something the OH and I considered before we had our daughter, but then we're responsible adults who don't expect the state to support us.

[youngsyr]

ewenm said:

Corsair7 said:

trackdemon said:

Er, if you can't afford kids don't bl00dy pro-create? Simple enough to do, right? Surely the pill, condoms, a vasectomy or whatever is cheaper than supporting a family....

What a knobhed.

Affordability was certainly something the OH and I considered before we had our daughter, but then we're responsible adults who don't expect the state to support us.

Must have been nice to have had a crystal ball to be sure of your future financial circumstances.

[ewenm]

youngsyr said:

ewenm said:

Corsair7 said:

trackdemon said:

Er, if you can't afford kids don't bl00dy pro-create? Simple enough to do, right? Surely the pill, condoms, a vasectomy or whatever is cheaper than supporting a family....

What a knobhed.

Affordability was certainly something the OH and I considered before we had our daughter, but then we're responsible adults who don't expect the state to support us.

Must have been nice to have had a crystal ball to be sure of your future financial circumstances.

Best guess based on whether we can afford it on me working 50% and her not working at all (and no maternity pay). It's called contingency planning

[Tiggsy]

youngsyr said:

Must have been nice to have had a crystal ball to be sure of your future financial circumstances.

Oh please....they quit the lotto when their first kid was born because they "couldn't afford nappies - let alone furniture"

6 years on they have 4 kids and (until the win)"didn't have enough income to live on"

Doesn't need Mystic Meg to see where that was all heading!

[cazzer]

The point remains that she now has 4.6 million quid.
While using your logic she could now be £624 better off had she not played.

Give it up. She won, you lost.
She was right, you're wrong.
She has 4.6 million pounds, you don't.

[andy400]

Clearly I don't have all the facts, but £300/week isn't too bad if you are also receiving assistance for housing, bills etc.

[Tiggsy]

cazzer said:

The point remains that she now has 4.6 million quid.
While using your logic she could now be £624 better off had she not played.

I think the point dressed is a little broader than the one individual. If I run across the M4 blindfolded and make it I'm a donkey, not a traffic crossing genius!

[cazzer]

Tiggsy said:

I think the point dressed is a little broader than the one individual. If I run across the M4 blindfolded and make it I'm a donkey, not a traffic crossing genius!

La la la, she still has 4.6 million quid.

[Deva Link]

cazzer said:

Tiggsy said:

£300 a week and she's doing the lotto - retarded.

And yet now shes got 4.6 million.
£300 a week or £299 a week, not a massive difference.

Some people on benefits spend huge amounts on the lottery and scratch cards - a while ago they were talking about it could be limited.

[Deva Link]

trackdemon said:

Maybe a touch un-PC but this sentence grabbed me:

"....they had been living off just £300 a week for a long time, which was not enough to support them and their four children who lived at home with them...."

Er, if you can't afford kids don't bl00dy pro-create? Simple enough to do, right? Surely the pill, condoms, a vasectomy or whatever is cheaper than supporting a family....

I liked the comment: "Mrs Mullen, who is registered disabled, said the money would make a huge difference." No st!

[Tiggsy]

cazzer said:

La la la, she still has 4.6 million quid.

Right, you got me beat with your "I counter odds of 14 million to one with my la la noise defense"

[Vipers]

RemainAllHoof said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-123967...

Same numbers twice in 6 weeks. Brilliant. Why? Because it's completely random and can happen.

6 YEARS, not weeks.

[Vipers]

Tiggsy said:

£300 a week and she's doing the lotto - retarded.

Bit like all those on benifits who drink, smoke, and god forbid fork out a quid for a scratch card?

[Tiggsy]

Vipers said:

Bit like all those on benifits who drink, smoke, and god forbid fork out a quid for a scratch card?

Correct. I am not anti lotto, it generates money for good causes. But, in the same way I dont enjoy football but still feels it offers a useful way to entertain the working class, I think people doing it are daft. People with more kids than they can feed are very daft.

[Pesty]

Vipers said:

Bit like all those on benifits who drink, smoke, and god forbid fork out a quid for a scratch card?

Not affording nappies never stoped them from beer or fags apparently

Was working in Grimsby today

a well known family, large family according to the guy I was working with

apparently had a miraculas recovery from all their ailments that stoped them from working.