Bahrain Protests
Discussion
Frankeh said:
DonnyMac said:
like Egypt?
Like Tunisia?Edit:Just looked up my Libyan friend on facebook to ask him what's going on and he's unfriended me, the tosser.
Edited by Frankeh on Thursday 17th February 12:05
allnighter said:
Take a wild guess..go on.... not that... try again.....yes that's it! A midnight visit from Ghaddafi's secret police.don't blame the poor sod and don't underestimate his dictator.
Nah, he cut off contact with one of his best mates about a year ago. Something about going after his girlfriend or something stupid.We all hate his girlfriend with a passion, and she's ugly anyway.
He's just odd.
I readded him because I'd at least like to know why he did it. We still have 30 friends in common, so he specifically chose to remove me. Git.
tvrjules said:
looks like Bernie has sent in the riot police. the square is clear of protesters now.
Picture allegedly from the Bahrain protests. NSFW! A guys head is in less than perfect condition, and I think his brain is mostly missing.
http://twitpic.com/40ord5
Frankeh said:
tvrjules said:
looks like Bernie has sent in the riot police. the square is clear of protesters now.
Picture allegedly from the Bahrain protests. NSFW! A guys head is in less than perfect condition, and I think his brain is mostly missing.
http://twitpic.com/40ord5
Frankeh said:
tvrjules said:
looks like Bernie has sent in the riot police. the square is clear of protesters now.
Picture allegedly from the Bahrain protests. NSFW! A guys head is in less than perfect condition, and I think his brain is mostly missing.
http://twitpic.com/40ord5
allnighter said:
Tsippy said:
And on Fox News too , but hang on..London is burning as well according to them.
Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 17th February 17:14
Jimbeaux said:
allnighter said:
Tsippy said:
And on Fox News too , but hang on..London is burning as well according to them.Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 17th February 17:14
and his rant.At 5:58 minutes he suggests Italy is on fire and we are alrady seeing riots in Uk & Ireland! A complete lunatic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ThpZ1iyFY&fea...
allnighter said:
Well look no further than Fox News' Glenn Beck, in dire need of some Prosac I might add and his rant.
At 5:58 minutes he suggests Italy is on fire and we are alrady seeing riots in Uk & Ireland! A complete lunatic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ThpZ1iyFY&fea...
He wasnt saying that there have been riots in the UK or Italy, he's suggesting what could happen if the middle east goes fooooommmm . . . . .all very tinfoil hat and daily mail and his rant.At 5:58 minutes he suggests Italy is on fire and we are alrady seeing riots in Uk & Ireland! A complete lunatic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ThpZ1iyFY&fea...
AndrewW-G said:
allnighter said:
Well look no further than Fox News' Glenn Beck, in dire need of some Prosac I might add and his rant.
At 5:58 minutes he suggests Italy is on fire and we are alrady seeing riots in Uk & Ireland! A complete lunatic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ThpZ1iyFY&fea...
He wasnt saying that there have been riots in the UK or Italy, he's suggesting what could happen if the middle east goes fooooommmm . . . . .all very tinfoil hat and daily mail and his rant.At 5:58 minutes he suggests Italy is on fire and we are alrady seeing riots in Uk & Ireland! A complete lunatic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ThpZ1iyFY&fea...
allnighter said:
Jimbeaux said:
allnighter said:
Tsippy said:
And on Fox News too , but hang on..London is burning as well according to them.Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 17th February 17:14
and his rant.At 5:58 minutes he suggests Italy is on fire and we are alrady seeing riots in Uk & Ireland! A complete lunatic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ThpZ1iyFY&fea...
allnighter said:
AndrewW-G said:
allnighter said:
Well look no further than Fox News' Glenn Beck, in dire need of some Prosac I might add and his rant.
At 5:58 minutes he suggests Italy is on fire and we are alrady seeing riots in Uk & Ireland! A complete lunatic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ThpZ1iyFY&fea...
He wasnt saying that there have been riots in the UK or Italy, he's suggesting what could happen if the middle east goes fooooommmm . . . . .all very tinfoil hat and daily mail and his rant.At 5:58 minutes he suggests Italy is on fire and we are alrady seeing riots in Uk & Ireland! A complete lunatic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ThpZ1iyFY&fea...
Jimbeaux said:
But you said it as it he stated it literally. Again, watch the video and see if it is all unplausible. I agree that the MB is a small minority in Egypt and is not given much creed; however, we have seen over and over the turmoil small minorities of anything can cause. Therefore, if the MB is Sunni, is it not at least worth scrutiny that they will clash with Shiites through means that may draw in the average Egyptian? Just asking.
First of all supporting and propping dictators is like playing with fire, soon or late you will burn your hands, and stating that is correct.However where he went wrong is his misinformed if not rediculous theory that somehow all Muslims sunny or Shiites are all united and they all gonna rise and squeeze Israel, Europe and the rest of the world.It smacks of extreme paranoia, and accute tinfoil-hatism.People are rising up against their leaders to demand food,wages and better living conditions.They don't care about world politics, Israel or any other country.
One consolation he should have in his Fox News Studio is that countries in those regions are never united, and never will be.Everyone looks out for themselves.
Victor McDade said:
A few more of these should get the people off the streets:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM...
They have different demands. The small group that protested in pearl square demanded the release of prisoners who are murderers and terrorists. http://www.bna.bh/portal/en/news/447279http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM...
They were then given $3000 for each family. Moments later the government issued a raise in salaries by 20%. Bare in mind, Bahraini citizens get free education, free health care from government controlled hospitals, and housing ( however there is a waiting list on here). Not of that satisfied them.
The problem Bahrain has is that these groups of people are extremely violent and are backed up by Iran. If they were to be in positions like military, security forces, naval police, it would be so easy for them to use the weapons against their government. They publicly announce their loyalty to Iran. The last thing Bahrain would do is accept them into the military.
On February 13, a group of Shiites held a wedding ceremony. A few of them saw police patrolling the area and became aggressive towards them. Tear gas canisters and rubber bullets were fired at them. One officer hit a protester in the eye which caused internal bleeding and then became the first death.
On feb 14, protests started in small numbers. Police started patrolling the area where the first victim was killed. The family held a ceremony. Same crazy stuff happened and a second one dead.
Both officers were relieved from their duties and the king went public and apologised to the families. He made it clear to the people that change will come. This infuriated the Shiites and they decided to occupy the pearl roundabout and said they won't leave until they see these changes. New demands are made every time one of their demands are met. This time they said they weren't going to leave until the prime minister steps down.
Pearl roundabout (known as pearl square now by the media) is a major junction in the capital. The government had no choice but to issue a warning to them and give them 24hrs to leave. During those 24hrs, the govt had a tip off that the protesters are armed and are aiming to strike on friday. Another group of pro govt people planned on peacefully asking their Shiite fellow citizens to stop the violence. It is very likely that these two groups could clash. That's one theory, the other being that the grand mosque is located in juffair, a city that is mostly occupied by Americans and the same city where the U.S fifth fleet is based in. In the past, they have tried bombing the U.S base a couple of times in Bahrain. And finally the third reason is that the pearl roundabout sits in front of the banking region. It is very likely that they would target the banks to make their point.
At 3 am Thursday morning, riot police blocked six out of seven roads connected to the pearl roundabout and used a megaphone from all sides telling the protesters to leave or else the police will use force. Not a single one of them moved. Instead they shouted out "death to the king" "death to al khalifa". Tear gas, flash grenades, noise grenades were launched at them. Some charged towards the police while the majority fled the area. With tear gas in the air and only one way to go, there was a stampede resulting in the deaths of 3 more including the one with his brains spilled out as someone posted above. Many of the protesters took their cars and ran over policemen. Lots of them brutally attacked them with swords and knives. About 100 protesters were injured and 3 killed while 62 policemen were badly injured and 14 in critical condition. One of them died overnight while in intensive care. Later on , tanks were seen on the streets to secure the capital.
When police and soldiers were clearing the roundabout, they found a number of pistols, swords, machetes(sp?), and what looks like a great amount of home made ninja stars. If this was a peaceful demonstration, the police would react differently but weapons were found in the roundabout and sadly the media shows the viewers what they want to see and not facts. The BBC edited the video where they showed what happened in the square. They showed riot police firing tear gas and harmless citizens killed and rushed to hospitals where they said police attacked doctors who tried to help the injured. The people filming those policemen firing tear gas canisters are police camera men just incase people fabricate their own story. They don't show the police warning the crowd, they don't show the images of the police that were injured, they didn't show the amount of weapons found that showed carvings on the swords that look very similar to those that Hezbollah use. But negative publicity is what sells i guess.
www.youtube.com/video/KHjppYjB-Dw
This here is a link of it all. Unfortunately I can't seem to find a translated one but I would just like to make a few pointers throughout the clip.
At the beginning of the vid, the brigadier speaking explains exactly how it all happened. This vid was released after the protesters said police raided them while they were asleep. In this vid you see the police warning them to leave and riot police stepping in. Some people fled but the majority of them were in the roundabout chanting.
1:20 - you can see those homemade ninja stars. I have no idea if there is a name for them but there was boxes of them.
2:00 - if you can't stand looking at knife wounds, amputated fingers, and sword stabbed people then stop watching. Here it shows policemen stabbed with knives and swords, a few who have been run over by cars, a police man who was ganged up on and got his fingers chopped off.
6:37 - they show the weapons found on the roundabout which they took in for finger print
6:53 - the brigadier talking mentions the make of the guns found there to be smith&wesson .9mm guns
7:53 - one more gun shown, don't know what this one is.
The rest of the video, the brigadier states that there have been rumours of children being killed which was completely false and another statement that said that ambulances were being stopped by police which they said again is false and that they have images of all ambulances headed to the hospital.
And as I am typing this, I hear that thousands of pro govt supporters have already gathered. These Shiites in that roundabout will retaliate but they have no support from Sunnis, Shiite Persians, and more than half of their own Arab Shiites. And every time something like this happens, I wonder what exactly do they hope to accomplish if they miraculously gain leadership in Bahrain. All the other gulf countries are anti-irani govt. There was a leaked wiki leaks cable that said Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan all urged the US to attack Iran. The UAE and Egypt called the Persians evil.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/28/us-embassy-cables-saudis-iran
So much to say about this......gonna just have to wait and see what happens next in the region.
Rodimus said:
Lots of Stuff
What would you suggest as the best neutral news source for what is going on?PS are you related to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheikha_Hala_bent_Dai...?
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