Julian Assange loses extradition appeal at Supreme Court

Julian Assange loses extradition appeal at Supreme Court

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Jasandjules

70,042 posts

231 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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XCP said:
he is demonstrating that he thinks only certain parts of the law in this country should apply to him. A rather arrogant stance, in my opinion.
Judges do that too...

Murph7355

37,948 posts

258 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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samwilliams said:
Even with that, there's practically no way he could get out of the country. He seems to have two options: live in the Ecuadorian embassy forever, or go to Sweden.
The girls are prettier in Sweden.

Oh wait.....

Alfa numeric

3,034 posts

181 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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samwilliams said:
Even with that, there's practically no way he could get out of the country. He seems to have two options: live in the Ecuadorian embassy forever, or go to Sweden.
I'd imagine he's looking for a diplomatic bag with air holes.

TallbutBuxomly

12,254 posts

218 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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As I understand it he would have immunity from prosecution and arrest.

samwilliams

836 posts

258 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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There's a good blog on how exactly Assange could get out of the country (or how he couldn't, mostly) here: http://www.headoflegal.com/2012/06/26/julian-assan...

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Looks like he's been given asylum.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/ecuador-gran...

Still seems a little unclear.

If he has I'll be surprised. Pleased but surprised.

Puggit

48,571 posts

250 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Marf said:
Looks like he's been given asylum.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/ecuador-gran...

Still seems a little unclear.

If he has I'll be surprised. Pleased but surprised.
That doesn't give him the right to traverse UK soil to get to the airport though hehe

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Puggit said:
That doesn't give him the right to traverse UK soil to get to the airport though hehe
that's the salient point.

Is it feasible for him to be given a diplomatic passport I wonder, and would that provide him immunity?

Otherwise they'd have to smuggle him out of the embassy, into an airport and onto a private jet.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

173 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Marf said:
that's the salient point.

Is it feasible for him to be given a diplomatic passport I wonder, and would that provide him immunity?

Otherwise they'd have to smuggle him out of the embassy, into an airport and onto a private jet.
Asil Nadir is in town - could ask him for some tips. wink

TallbutBuxomly

12,254 posts

218 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Marf said:
Puggit said:
That doesn't give him the right to traverse UK soil to get to the airport though hehe
that's the salient point.

Is it feasible for him to be given a diplomatic passport I wonder, and would that provide him immunity?

Otherwise they'd have to smuggle him out of the embassy, into an airport and onto a private jet.
Not that hard to do. Land helicopter in roof. Fly to undisclosed airfield/ landing strip. Transfer onto private jet fly him out the country. IIRC there is some bylaw around private planes either with diplomats on board or not making them the same as the embassy meaning authorities are not allowed to enter the craft without permission.

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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TallbutBuxomly said:
Marf said:
Puggit said:
That doesn't give him the right to traverse UK soil to get to the airport though hehe
that's the salient point.

Is it feasible for him to be given a diplomatic passport I wonder, and would that provide him immunity?

Otherwise they'd have to smuggle him out of the embassy, into an airport and onto a private jet.
Not that hard to do. Land helicopter in roof. Fly to undisclosed airfield/ landing strip. Transfer onto private jet fly him out the country. IIRC there is some bylaw around private planes either with diplomats on board or not making them the same as the embassy meaning authorities are not allowed to enter the craft without permission.
Well this made me chuckle

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?oe=utf-8&q=SW1X+...

Zoom in a bit and look what is across the road from the embassy.

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Mermaid said:
Asil Nadir is in town - could ask him for some tips. wink
You'd want to have been paid well if you'd been his pilot eh?

Mermaid

21,492 posts

173 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Marf said:
Well this made me chuckle

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?oe=utf-8&q=SW1X+...

Zoom in a bit and look what is across the road from the embassy.
Ready for Fayed if he had ever had to take off quickly.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Puggit said:
That doesn't give him the right to traverse UK soil to get to the airport though hehe
How'd ya figure that one? Forgotten how the Libyan "diplomats" walked out of UK after shooting WPC Yvonne Fletcher from the embassy window?

Mermaid

21,492 posts

173 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Puggit said:
That doesn't give him the right to traverse UK soil to get to the airport though hehe
How'd ya figure that one? Forgotten how the Libyan "diplomats" walked out of UK after shooting WPC Yvonne Fletcher from the embassy window?
Yes, yes that was tragic & serious, but this is super serious because but the Yanks want this guy.

Jasandjules

70,042 posts

231 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
How'd ya figure that one? Forgotten how the Libyan "diplomats" walked out of UK after shooting WPC Yvonne Fletcher from the embassy window?
Sure that but was a simple murder of a police officer, hardly important when it is taken against rich people possibly having those skeletons released from the closets eh!?!?

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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My! Such cynicism among a couple of NP&E regulars!! smile

Mermaid

21,492 posts

173 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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The British Government is alleged to have threatened the Equadorian Embassy that if any effort is made for Assange to leave, they will arrest him, and could enter the Embassy to arrest him.


Edited by Mermaid on Wednesday 15th August 22:31

TallbutBuxomly

12,254 posts

218 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Mermaid said:
The British Government is alleged to have threatened the Equadorian Embassy that if any effort is made for Assange to leave, they will arrest him, and could enter the Embassy to arrest him.


Edited by Mermaid on Wednesday 15th August 22:31
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-19259623


The Foreign Office said it could revoke the embassy's diplomatic status.

In a statement issued as Mr Patino spoke, it said the UK had a "legal obligation" to extradite Mr Assange.

Meanwhile, a number of police officers are outside the embassy, in Knightsbridge.

At a news conference in Quito on Wednesday night, Mr Patino said: "Today we received from the United Kingdom an express threat, in writing, that they might storm our Embassy in London if we don't hand over Julian Assange.

"Ecuador rejects in the most emphatic terms the explicit threat of the British official communication."

A Foreign Office spokesman said the UK remained "determined" to fulfil its obligation to extradite Mr Assange.


Anyone STILL think this has nothing to do with trying to extradite him to the US???

Have we ever heard of a case of a foreign embassy having its status revoked and police storming the building to extradite someone on shaky accusations????



eharding

13,829 posts

286 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Assange hasn't got anything to worry about - if the FCO revoke the diplomatic status of the Ecuadorian Embassy and send the Met in to arrest him, on the basis of recent experience, it will take them four attempts at searching the building before they can hope of finding him, by which time he'll have been long gone, away on his toes in disguise.

The only possible downside for young Julian is if he makes the classic blunder of disguising himself as a South American electrician, and in a case of mistaken identity ends up being slotted by some Red-Bull-fuelled Robo-Rozzer as he's rushing for a tube train.

Edited by eharding on Thursday 16th August 00:26