Prince Andrew US civil sexual assault case

Prince Andrew US civil sexual assault case

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MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

139 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Oakey said:
XJ Flyer said:
Actually assuming he has shagged a 17 year old,which arguably doesn't comply with local US age of consent rules,which are all about 'age difference' not a girl who is 'too young' per se,then the police obviously have the choice of extrading him to face trial there.Assuming he is convicted that would at least probably have the win win result of changing the ridiculous double standards ageist,agephobic US age of consent laws,in addition to stopping the similar moves towards such a policy here,pdq.Which considering the 'implications' in this case would probably apply retrospectively regarding those convicted.
I'm not sure anything would even come of it.

Paul Walker was 33 when he allegedly started dating his 16 year old girlfriend.

R Kelly was 27 when he married 15 year old Aaliyah.

And then there was that 50yr old Green Mile actor who married the 16yr old.

All definitely more questionable than what's alleged here yet none of them faced any consequences. R Kelly was even acquitted, and they had him on video pissing on a 14yr old!
Let's not forget Chris Evans was in his late 30s when he married Billie Piper, who was 16 at the time,

as said above the age of the girl is a bit of a red herring - the girl is claiming that she was forced to have sex with Prince Andrew.


Edited by MarshPhantom on Sunday 4th January 08:49

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

249 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Having just read an net review with the woman in the Mail she alleges this took place in the UK (although doesn't state what age) and that Los later in New York and the Caribbean. Again, age is unclear.

Also states full sex in the UK I believe.

Sounds like a fantasist, but who knows...? There will be travel records I suspect that might back this up. Unless of course she was on a private jet and bypassed customs.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

249 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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From what I've read, it would appear that the first alleged meeting was in the UK when the girl was at least 17.5 years old, maybe older.

It's all a bit confusing.


Philplop

348 posts

176 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
Let's not forget Chris Evans was in his late 30s when he married Billie Piper, who was 16 at the time,
Edited by MarshPhantom on Sunday 4th January 08:49
He was 35, she was 19.

irocfan

40,878 posts

192 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
as said above the age of the girl is a bit of a red herring - the girl is claiming that she was forced to have sex with Prince Andrew.


Edited by MarshPhantom on Sunday 4th January 08:49
ok then - did inbred do the coercing? Was he aware that there was potentially some coercion involved? Let's be honest me or thee as ordinary peeps would be quite taken aback if some very attractive young thing threw herself at us - in his case it's a normal occurrence, it probably wouldn't even register that this could be something strange

Kinky

39,653 posts

271 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Philplop said:
MarshPhantom said:
Let's not forget Chris Evans was in his late 30s when he married Billie Piper, who was 16 at the time,
Edited by MarshPhantom on Sunday 4th January 08:49
He was 35, she was 19.
And Bill Wyman with Mandy wotsername

irocfan

40,878 posts

192 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Kinky said:
Philplop said:
MarshPhantom said:
Let's not forget Chris Evans was in his late 30s when he married Billie Piper, who was 16 at the time,
Edited by MarshPhantom on Sunday 4th January 08:49
He was 35, she was 19.
And Bill Wyman with Mandy wotsername
yup - has been mentioned before. Wrong then and wrong now, with all this yewtree stuff going on why hasn't BW had his collar felt?

vonuber

17,868 posts

167 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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If you read what the well connected billionaire was originally charged with (and the astonishingly lenient sentence he received) then you see what the issue is; procuring girls as young as possible to have sex with including keeping some against their will on his island as his personal sex slaves.

That's what our lovely Duke has been involved with.

don'tbesilly

13,982 posts

165 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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vonuber said:
If you read what the well connected billionaire was originally charged with (and the astonishingly lenient sentence he received) then you see what the issue is; procuring girls as young as possible to have sex with including keeping some against their will on his island as his personal sex slaves.

That's what our lovely Duke has been involved with.
So where is the evidence that explicitly links HRH with any of the above?

Oakey

27,620 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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vonuber said:
If you read what the well connected billionaire was originally charged with (and the astonishingly lenient sentence he received) then you see what the issue is; procuring girls as young as possible to have sex with including keeping some against their will on his island as his personal sex slaves.

That's what our lovely Duke has been involved with.
So has Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey and a number of others but no one seems to be singling them out?

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

249 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Wow, some people wanting to get sued?

paul0843

1,917 posts

209 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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TTmonkey said:
Having just read an net review with the woman in the Mail she alleges this took place in the UK (although doesn't state what age) and that Los later in New York and the Caribbean. Again, age is unclear.

Also states full sex in the UK I believe.

Sounds like a fantasist, but who knows...? There will be travel records I suspect that might back this up. Unless of course she was on a private jet and bypassed customs.
Even by private jet,they still need passports and details registered.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

249 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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paul0843 said:
Even by private jet,they still need passports and details registered.
Yeah, that's right. billionaire pedo's live by all the rules.....


Our border is like a bloody siv, if he wanted to import a girl for sexy fun with someone of VIP standing he's going to do it all above board and legal like isn't he.....?

Pesty

42,655 posts

258 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Oakey said:
So has Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey and a number of others but no one seems to be singling them out?
They are not republicans. Of course not, they get a free ride.

smn159

12,883 posts

219 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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Pesty said:
They are not republicans. Of course not, they get a free ride.
Those poor Republicans - I'm welling up here

vonuber

17,868 posts

167 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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don'tbesilly said:
So where is the evidence that explicitly links HRH with any of the above?
You mean like the photo of him and one of the girls involved in the original court case?

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

139 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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vonuber said:
don'tbesilly said:
So where is the evidence that explicitly links HRH with any of the above?
You mean like the photo of him and one of the girls involved in the original court case?
Plus Andrew's well documented friendship with the guy who organized the orgies.

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

132 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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irocfan said:
Kinky said:
Philplop said:
MarshPhantom said:
Let's not forget Chris Evans was in his late 30s when he married Billie Piper, who was 16 at the time,
Edited by MarshPhantom on Sunday 4th January 08:49
He was 35, she was 19.
And Bill Wyman with Mandy wotsername
yup - has been mentioned before. Wrong then and wrong now, with all this yewtree stuff going on why hasn't BW had his collar felt?
Feel free to explain exactly which laws have been broken in the case of an 80 + year old shagging a 16 year old in this country,let alone a 35 year old shagging a 19 year old.Assuming non prostitution activeties or position of trust issues.

XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

132 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
Oakey said:
XJ Flyer said:
Actually assuming he has shagged a 17 year old,which arguably doesn't comply with local US age of consent rules,which are all about 'age difference' not a girl who is 'too young' per se,then the police obviously have the choice of extrading him to face trial there.Assuming he is convicted that would at least probably have the win win result of changing the ridiculous double standards ageist,agephobic US age of consent laws,in addition to stopping the similar moves towards such a policy here,pdq.Which considering the 'implications' in this case would probably apply retrospectively regarding those convicted.
I'm not sure anything would even come of it.

Paul Walker was 33 when he allegedly started dating his 16 year old girlfriend.

R Kelly was 27 when he married 15 year old Aaliyah.

And then there was that 50yr old Green Mile actor who married the 16yr old.

All definitely more questionable than what's alleged here yet none of them faced any consequences. R Kelly was even acquitted, and they had him on video pissing on a 14yr old!
Let's not forget Chris Evans was in his late 30s when he married Billie Piper, who was 16 at the time,

as said above the age of the girl is a bit of a red herring - the girl is claiming that she was forced to have sex with Prince Andrew.


Edited by MarshPhantom on Sunday 4th January 08:49
More like a prostitution type relationship with a girl under 18 which is actually a statutory rape allegation which is all probably getting confused with non statutory rape across the wires.

don'tbesilly

13,982 posts

165 months

Sunday 4th January 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
vonuber said:
don'tbesilly said:
So where is the evidence that explicitly links HRH with any of the above?
You mean like the photo of him and one of the girls involved in the original court case?
Plus Andrew's well documented friendship with the guy who organized the orgies.
That's the evidence that would find him guilty of what exactly?