How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 4)

How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 4)

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PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
Was it exclusively about 'taking back control' of the UK's borders, or did 'taking back control' cover a myriad of controls?
What things don't you want to take back control of?

don'tbesilly

14,009 posts

165 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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Ghibli said:
don'tbesilly said:
Was it exclusively about 'taking back control' of the UK's borders, or did 'taking back control' cover a myriad of controls?
Was there anything on the ballot paper about taking back control of our borders?
Did you not read the question?

sidicks

25,218 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
What things don't you want to take back control of?
We take back control of everything. That doesn't mean we have to change everything. HTH

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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mx5nut said:
It'll be similar to why they wouldn't publish their impact assessments - it will hurt some Leavers' feelings.
But they were sectoral analyst assessments.

A totally different thing apparently.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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psi310398 said:
JagLover said:
wc98 said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Seems we have project fear mk2.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6003837/Pl...


Does anyone know how 'no deal' (no withdrawal agreement or trade agreement) is being reported in the EU27.
i remember similar claims in the lead up to the millennium.
A very good analogy as that was a real issue that was both overblown by the media but also very much mitigated by a great deal of work to fix all of crucial systems that might be affected.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30576670
IIRC, it was much overblown, hyped up by the government and provided a bonanza for a whole load of profiteering spivs.
I made £2K for the night, sat on my arse in the house on call. biggrin

We did do a lot of work on the lead up to ensure we were ready, just as we should be doing now for Brexit.

alfie2244

11,292 posts

190 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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Ghibli said:
mx5nut said:
It'll be similar to why they wouldn't publish their impact assessments - it will hurt some Leavers' feelings.
But they were sectoral analyst assessments.

A totally different thing apparently.
Having a good day boys? biggrin

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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sidicks said:
We take back control of everything. That doesn't mean we have to change everything. HTH
And taking back control is handing over food safety to a third party?

turbobloke

104,757 posts

262 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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vonuber said:
Sure, fifth (Or are we 6th now) as a result of being part of the EU.
In the way that's expressed, 'as a result of', you're implying certainty over an unknown quantity. Wishful thinking, possibly?

We're 5th or 6th in the global economy rankings, and happen to be in the EU, where we've been since the EU evolved out of the EEC.

It's not knowable whether we'd be 4th (or whatever) already if we'd been operating outside the EU for the same period of time. Credit may therefore be due to EU membership or there may be a disbenefit. Neither of us knows which. Nor does anybody else, regardless of whether or not they've got a gravity model to play with.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
Ghibli said:
don'tbesilly said:
Was it exclusively about 'taking back control' of the UK's borders, or did 'taking back control' cover a myriad of controls?
Was there anything on the ballot paper about taking back control of our borders?
Did you not read the question?
Yes

sidicks

25,218 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
And taking back control is handing over food safety to a third party?
We aren't 'handing over' anything.

don'tbesilly

14,009 posts

165 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
don'tbesilly said:
Was it exclusively about 'taking back control' of the UK's borders, or did 'taking back control' cover a myriad of controls?
What things don't you want to take back control of?
I didn't write anything that would infer that there were things I didn't want to take back control of.

Does that help?

don'tbesilly

14,009 posts

165 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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Ghibli said:
don'tbesilly said:
Ghibli said:
don'tbesilly said:
Was it exclusively about 'taking back control' of the UK's borders, or did 'taking back control' cover a myriad of controls?
Was there anything on the ballot paper about taking back control of our borders?
Did you not read the question?
Yes
Excellent, you know the answer to your vacuous question.

andymadmak

14,708 posts

272 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
sidicks said:
We take back control of everything. That doesn't mean we have to change everything. HTH
And taking back control is handing over food safety to a third party?
How do you imagine the EU polices food safety at the moment?

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
Excellent, you know the answer to your vacuous question.
Great, we will know what you are saying when in future you ask if it was on the ballot paper or you talk about anything Brexit related that wasn't on the ballot paper.

Russian Troll Bot

25,044 posts

229 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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wc98 said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Seems we have project fear mk2.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6003837/Pl...


Does anyone know how 'no deal' (no withdrawal agreement or trade agreement) is being reported in the EU27.
i remember similar claims in the lead up to the millennium.
And when we decided not to join the Euro

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2835573/Nissan...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/u...

psi310398

9,280 posts

205 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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andymadmak said:
How do you imagine the EU polices food safety at the moment?
Fairly patchily, and with several incidences of corruption, by all accounts. And, to be clear, I'm not suggesting it is any different here.

But that will be as true on Brexit Day 1 as it will be on Brexit Day -1.


Helicopter123

8,831 posts

158 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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Taking back control?

All that matters to some is that we 'take back control' over the number of 'immigrants' coming into the country, especially those with different coloured skins or non-christian beliefs. All of the downsides to 'taking back control' are either 'project fear' or 'a price worth paying' depending on which paper they last read.



Edited by Helicopter123 on Sunday 29th July 18:32

powerstroke

10,283 posts

162 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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Great we need some mother of a brush to sweep up all the BS on this thread ...

don'tbesilly

14,009 posts

165 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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Ghibli said:
don'tbesilly said:
Excellent, you know the answer to your vacuous question.
Great, we will know what you are saying when in future you ask if it was on the ballot paper or you talk about anything Brexit related that wasn't on the ballot paper.
Great, I've never said any of the above (exception being, referring to remainers saying it), nor am I likely to.

Next.

sidicks

25,218 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
Taking back control?

All that matters to sum is that we 'take back control' over the number of 'immigrants' coming into the country, especially those with different coloured skins or non-christian beliefs. All of the downsides to 'taking back control' are either 'project fear' or 'a price worth paying' depending on which paper they last read.
I think you mean 'some'.

But not sure what the relevance is of a small number of idiots in the wider scheme of things?
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