Bercow resigning as Speaker
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NoNeed said:
I never liked the bloke, always thought the job was about him, just him and nothing but him, his Brexit shenanigans and the bully stuff just confirmed my initial thoughts.
So you do not think that the speaker needs a degree of egocentricity and confidence to be able to control the members of parliament.I found his approach of standing up for parliament and backbenchers refreshing and needed.
Sadly the likes of Boothroyd would find the current batch of MPs difficult to handle.
I’m not surprised at your opinion though.
psi310398 said:
Vanden Saab said:
Regardless who is chosen the record for the shortest period a speaker has been in office is unlikely to be broken...
Do you think so? I can't imagine a fresh Tory/TBP majority Commons wearing another anti-Brexit Speaker. And I think they'd want to make a point.That's the trouble now - I think trust has broken down almost completely.
snake_oil said:
valiant said:
According to that most reliable of sources, Twitter, Harriet Harman is considering throwing her hat in the ring.
This would, in my opinion, be brilliant if only to see NP&E explode. You’ll be wishing for Bercow to return
She's in. Because lady.This would, in my opinion, be brilliant if only to see NP&E explode. You’ll be wishing for Bercow to return
https://youtu.be/ME5GvKczs1g
She says she has the hind of a rhino. Perhaps techiedave could comment?
I'm not sure it should be Harriet Harperson. Leaving aside her "it should be me because I'm a woman" that seems to be the bulk of her reason to get the job. She was actually official Leader of the Opposition for a few months, and Deputy Leader of the Labour Party for some years. Those prior positions would seem to be a step too far on the bias meter to pull back now and claim to be able to operate with impartiality. I know that Lindsay Hoyle is a Labour MP and that Bercow was a Conservative (believe it or not) but the Speaker does have to be an MP so they do therefore have had to be affiliated with one of the parties. I think it should be someone that's only been a regular MP though, not someone that actually led a party.
She also has a terrible driving record!
She also has a terrible driving record!
Nickgnome said:
So you do not think that the speaker needs a degree of egocentricity and confidence to be able to control the members of parliament.
I found his approach of standing up for parliament and backbenchers refreshing and needed.
Sadly the likes of Boothroyd would find the current batch of MPs difficult to handle.
I’m not surprised at your opinion though.
Squints to makes sure he’s read correctly.I found his approach of standing up for parliament and backbenchers refreshing and needed.
Sadly the likes of Boothroyd would find the current batch of MPs difficult to handle.
I’m not surprised at your opinion though.
A degree of egocentricity? As a qualification? I think f
king not.He needs the confidence of the whole house and a neutral stance. It’s as simple as that.
Are you serious on your points or just on wind up?
kev1974 said:
I'm not sure it should be Harriet Harperson. Leaving aside her "it should be me because I'm a woman" that seems to be the bulk of her reason to get the job. She was actually official Leader of the Opposition for a few months, and Deputy Leader of the Labour Party for some years. Those prior positions would seem to be a step too far on the bias meter to pull back now and claim to be able to operate with impartiality. I know that Lindsay Hoyle is a Labour MP and that Bercow was a Conservative (believe it or not) but the Speaker does have to be an MP so they do therefore have had to be affiliated with one of the parties. I think it should be someone that's only been a regular MP though, not someone that actually led a party.
Harperson will be another Bercow (though hopefully with a less odious personality). You can see that with the interviews she is giving where she says she will continue with his policy. Ridgemont said:
Nickgnome said:
So you do not think that the speaker needs a degree of egocentricity and confidence to be able to control the members of parliament.
I found his approach of standing up for parliament and backbenchers refreshing and needed.
Sadly the likes of Boothroyd would find the current batch of MPs difficult to handle.
I’m not surprised at your opinion though.
Squints to makes sure he’s read correctly.I found his approach of standing up for parliament and backbenchers refreshing and needed.
Sadly the likes of Boothroyd would find the current batch of MPs difficult to handle.
I’m not surprised at your opinion though.
A degree of egocentricity? As a qualification? I think f
king not.He needs the confidence of the whole house and a neutral stance. It’s as simple as that.
Are you serious on your points or just on wind up?
Nickgnome said:
NoNeed said:
I never liked the bloke, always thought the job was about him, just him and nothing but him, his Brexit shenanigans and the bully stuff just confirmed my initial thoughts.
So you do not think that the speaker needs a degree of egocentricity and confidence to be able to control the members of parliament.I found his approach of standing up for parliament and backbenchers refreshing and needed.
Sadly the likes of Boothroyd would find the current batch of MPs difficult to handle.
I’m not surprised at your opinion though.
t but did so with courtesy and decorum; a wholly different style to Bercow but just as effective.JMGS4 said:
Bercow: Typical of shortarses, inferiority complex which then changes to massive overego( see Napoleon, Schickelgruber, Erdogan)... a nasty poison dwarf who should never ever have been elected for anything. He's only good enough to empty the bins....
Thats an insult to binmen/ladiesMXRod said:
JMGS4 said:
Bercow: Typical of shortarses, inferiority complex which then changes to massive overego( see Napoleon, Schickelgruber, Erdogan)... a nasty poison dwarf who should never ever have been elected for anything. He's only good enough to empty the bins....
Thats an insult to binmen/ladies
JMGS4 said:
MXRod said:
JMGS4 said:
Bercow: Typical of shortarses, inferiority complex which then changes to massive overego( see Napoleon, Schickelgruber, Erdogan)... a nasty poison dwarf who should never ever have been elected for anything. He's only good enough to empty the bins....
Thats an insult to binmen/ladies
It's not just having the character and tough skin to be able to control the rabble, and having the procedural knowledge. A big ask for the job is being able to instantly recall not just the names of 650 people but also their constituencies that he usually addresses them by, and in some cases job titles that suddenly come and go like Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster for Gove now. I think that's a very special skill, especially soon after a new election when lots of them will be newbies, I couldn't do that for so many people. I always thought Bercow did that element very well, just a shame he was so odious on the other requirements of the job!
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