UK asylum seekers expected to be flown to Rwanda

UK asylum seekers expected to be flown to Rwanda

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Biggy Stardust

7,068 posts

46 months

Thursday 14th April 2022
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Condi said:
Biggy Stardust said:
In answer to *2* I quite like what you've done with your house & intend to just wander in, settle myself on your sofa & expect you to keep me. Please be assured that it shows your house in a very good light. You see my point?
You've just bombed my house, and then gone away leaving the neighbourhood controlled by people who will kill me for my religion. Can't I stay at yours for a while, while earning money and having a job?
I'll put you with my mate in Tower Hamlets whilst I think about it.

TDK-C60

2,334 posts

32 months

Thursday 14th April 2022
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frisbee said:
Pit Pony said:
I don't know what to say.

Why are we treating people so badly ?
It’s a vote winner!

It’ll be a colossal waste of money.
Is it true this scheme has been cooked up over the last 11 weeks or so?

Doesn’t that put it’s initiation around the time of the “save big dog” bullst?

Why will it stop traffickers?

Four Litre

2,043 posts

194 months

Thursday 14th April 2022
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MrMan001 said:
Four Litre said:
I cant just rock up anywhere in the world (illegally) and expect them to look after me, people would think I'm nuts. What's the difference?
You could if you were being persecuted, it’s your human right. Are you being persecuted?
Do you really believe all those grown men rocking up on our beaches are persecuted. Try again.

chrispmartha

15,656 posts

131 months

Thursday 14th April 2022
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TDK-C60 said:
frisbee said:
Pit Pony said:
I don't know what to say.

Why are we treating people so badly ?
It’s a vote winner!

It’ll be a colossal waste of money.
Is it true this scheme has been cooked up over the last 11 weeks or so?

Doesn’t that put it’s initiation around the time of the “save big dog” bullst?

Why will it stop traffickers?
It will do the square root of F all to stop traffikers, it’s literally a pointless scheme created to appeal to certain tory voters.

I see Boris has already started to blame activist lefty lawyers for if it fails.

Condi

17,421 posts

173 months

Thursday 14th April 2022
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Four Litre said:
Do you really believe all those grown men rocking up on our beaches are persecuted. Try again.
Statically most of them are granted asylum, so according to the government they are. Try again.

Mr_Megalomaniac

860 posts

68 months

Thursday 14th April 2022
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croyde said:
Maybe we could all go and live in Rwanda and leave this cold grey expensive country to the migrants smile
If that's how you personally feel, no one is stopping you.
I personally love living in England; weather and all.

Mr_Megalomaniac

860 posts

68 months

Thursday 14th April 2022
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Condi said:
Statically most of them are granted asylum, so according to the government they are. Try again.
Believing the process reflects the reality.
Oh sunshine, if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

Notwithstanding the many stories of them being coached by "NGO's" to simply say they're a different religion to automatically come in.

Rufus Stone

6,601 posts

58 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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It's an out of sight out of mind policy.

All that will happen is that people arriving by boats will run rather than hand themselves in. More people will die because night crossings increase the chance of clandestine entry.

cossy400

3,194 posts

186 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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Surely it would be alot cheaper and easier to just have a boat moored and take them out the sea, put them on the boat and when its full take them back across the water.

They might get bored of trying it then.

They also might not get bored i know that, but from a monetary point of view surely its cheaper....

Electro1980

8,487 posts

141 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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Mr_Megalomaniac said:
Condi said:
Statically most of them are granted asylum, so according to the government they are. Try again.
Believing the process reflects the reality.
Oh sunshine, if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

Notwithstanding the many stories of them being coached by "NGO's" to simply say they're a different religion to automatically come in.
Doesn’t matter what you think, the fact is they are granted asylum.

Electro1980

8,487 posts

141 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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cossy400 said:
Surely it would be alot cheaper and easier to just have a boat moored and take them out the sea, put them on the boat and when its full take them back across the water.

They might get bored of trying it then.

They also might not get bored i know that, but from a monetary point of view surely its cheaper....
Firstly, how do you suggest getting in to French waters when France says no.
Secondly, have you looked at what happens where this is done, Mexico for example?

Vasco

16,554 posts

107 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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Electro1980 said:
Mr_Megalomaniac said:
Condi said:
Statically most of them are granted asylum, so according to the government they are. Try again.
Believing the process reflects the reality.
Oh sunshine, if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

Notwithstanding the many stories of them being coached by "NGO's" to simply say they're a different religion to automatically come in.
Doesn’t matter what you think, the fact is they are granted asylum.
Perhaps they won't be in future if this new policy comes in.

Ivan stewart

2,792 posts

38 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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Electro1980 said:
Firstly, how do you suggest getting in to French waters when France says no.
Secondly, have you looked at what happens where this is done, Mexico for example?
Wondering what if MS Le Penn wins the French election!
Will we get more help or will they shovel these chancers over faster.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,417 posts

213 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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Is the Rwanda plan for people who have failed Asylum applications?

cossy400

3,194 posts

186 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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Electro1980 said:
cossy400 said:
Surely it would be alot cheaper and easier to just have a boat moored and take them out the sea, put them on the boat and when its full take them back across the water.

They might get bored of trying it then.

They also might not get bored i know that, but from a monetary point of view surely its cheaper....
Firstly, how do you suggest getting in to French waters when France says no.
Secondly, have you looked at what happens where this is done, Mexico for example?
Suppose if the Navy are now getting involved we could just not let them in to British/English waters then?

And they are apparantly fleeing a war zone to get to here so what can Mexico be doing thats worse.....



Mrr T

12,429 posts

267 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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cossy400 said:
Suppose if the Navy are now getting involved we could just not let them in to British/English waters then?
How would they do that? Build a wall?

RochdalePioneers

308 posts

121 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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This press release is Good News! We will need to catch the boat people (currently many slip through), then detain them (currently many abscond), inoculate them against the various diseases in Rwanda and then render them. As we don't think it worthwhile properly funding the police of the Border Force this sounds like opportunity.

So, a stack of contracts to be handed out for the work. If its like the PPE contracts they will be awarded secretly without competitive tender to a company owned by a Tory donor charging 4x the price. Better still whilst they steal the money from our pockets many of you will cheer them on!

Perhaps we can ignore the LOOK SQUIRREL headline and go back to the real story. The Prime Minister lied and broke the law. We either have standards of behaviour in public office or we have none. Lies being accepted as truth is Putin's Russia - is it also Johnson's britain?

Any previous PM would have resigned already as a matter of principle. Including all the Tory ones. So this isn't about party politics (and I'm not a Labour supporter anyway) its about Right and Wrong.

RochdalePioneers

308 posts

121 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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Lets Stop and Think what asylum seekers get. They do get "a free house". The ones sat empty because nobody in their right mind wants to live there due to the high levels of crime and anti-social behaviour. They cannot work. they receive zero welfare benefits. They receive non-cash vouchers for food and clothes which they can exchange in a limited number of stores. Thats it.

If you are fleeing for your life that may be ok - and remember that despite the lies there is no law or rule saying you must claim in the first country you come to - the opposite is true. But we also know that so many of the boat people get here unimpeded and disappear off the beach. They are coming here to work. And as boats get through why would rendering the ones who get caught to Rwanda stop the draw?

How do we stop them? Go after the companies using illegal labour. Jail the bosses using illegals. If you employ someone cash in hand who has no right to be in the UK you will go to prison. That stops the pull to the UK far better than anything else. Yet this government don't seem to want to go after exploitative bosses making money off illegal workers. Ever asked why that might be...?

cossy400

3,194 posts

186 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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Mrr T said:
cossy400 said:
Suppose if the Navy are now getting involved we could just not let them in to British/English waters then?
How would they do that? Build a wall?
Police the waters abit more, why so extreme, spend money in areas that might help rather than pissing it up the wall to make it someone elses problem.

Countdown

40,285 posts

198 months

Friday 15th April 2022
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If this new process had already been in place would it have applied to Ukrainians?