Happy you voted Tory?
Poll: Happy you voted Tory?
Total Members Polled: 709
Discussion
Most of us will be worse off thats for sure, certainly the middle classes. The general idealogy from these muppets seem to be that we've all had it good for too long. Our living standards are too high and they are happy to take us all down a peg or two.
Not that I got a penny from the last goverment. But I do think the cuts they have planned are to deep for our economy and will lead to a double dip recession. No other country is reducing it's defecit quite as fast.
and hoping the private sector will expand to take on the ex police, teachers public sector workers is naive...
Not that I got a penny from the last goverment. But I do think the cuts they have planned are to deep for our economy and will lead to a double dip recession. No other country is reducing it's defecit quite as fast.
and hoping the private sector will expand to take on the ex police, teachers public sector workers is naive...
However my MP is an alright chap, so I don't really mind.KENZ said:
Most of us will be worse off thats for sure, certainly the middle classes. The general idealogy from these muppets seem to be that we've all had it good for too long. Our living standards are too high and they are happy to take us all down a peg or two.
Not that I got a penny from the last goverment. But I do think the cuts they have planned are to deep for our economy and will lead to a double dip recession. No other country is reducing it's defecit quite as fast.
and hoping the private sector will expand to take on the ex police, teachers public sector workers is naive...
I think its a shame labour lost the last election then they would have been forced into cuts and seen for what they are.... the real muppets.....Not that I got a penny from the last goverment. But I do think the cuts they have planned are to deep for our economy and will lead to a double dip recession. No other country is reducing it's defecit quite as fast.
and hoping the private sector will expand to take on the ex police, teachers public sector workers is naive...
the tories are doing what they did in 79... finding a way to get us out of the mess labour left....
Happy, if not for the simple reason that Brown was deprived of his election win and subsequent credible position with Obama/the electorate.
The look on his and his wifes faces as they walked the long walk filled me with satisfaction, small payment for the truly awful behaviour he displayed as this country's PM.
I don't think he would have cared what state the country was in just as long as he could have been PM with a strong mandate. Best FAIL of the new century.
I am not a bitter man but by God he fills me with loathing...
The look on his and his wifes faces as they walked the long walk filled me with satisfaction, small payment for the truly awful behaviour he displayed as this country's PM.
I don't think he would have cared what state the country was in just as long as he could have been PM with a strong mandate. Best FAIL of the new century.
I am not a bitter man but by God he fills me with loathing...
Oilchange said:
Happy, if not for the simple reason that Brown was deprived of his election win and subsequent credible position with Obama/the electorate.
The look on his and his wifes faces as they walked the long walk filled me with satisfaction, small payment for the truly awful behaviour he displayed as this country's PM.
I don't think he would have cared what state the country was in just as long as he could have been PM with a strong mandate. Best FAIL of the new century.
I am not a bitter man but by God he fills me with loathing...
O'h come on winkey wasn't that bad a person. Granted he was a PR disaster at times..The look on his and his wifes faces as they walked the long walk filled me with satisfaction, small payment for the truly awful behaviour he displayed as this country's PM.
I don't think he would have cared what state the country was in just as long as he could have been PM with a strong mandate. Best FAIL of the new century.
I am not a bitter man but by God he fills me with loathing...
Edited by KENZ on Wednesday 2nd February 10:21
I wish the conservatives had someone as will-powered as Thatcher again (not starting that debate, just her 'i'm gonna do it anyway' attitude). Cameron seems to be good willed, but doesn't seem to have the courage to push for things...
But I guess when he has to please the Liberal Democrats who are essentially opposite to his party's views, he can't really do that much...
Apparently a lot of Tory voters are swinging over to UKIP now, as they're getting tired of the tory's complete inaction on anything to do with the EU. Maybe now the Lib Dems are screwed, the new third largest party will be UKIP? I'd like to see that happen...
But I guess when he has to please the Liberal Democrats who are essentially opposite to his party's views, he can't really do that much...
Apparently a lot of Tory voters are swinging over to UKIP now, as they're getting tired of the tory's complete inaction on anything to do with the EU. Maybe now the Lib Dems are screwed, the new third largest party will be UKIP? I'd like to see that happen...
grumbledoak said:
You've got to be kidding? He was an egomaniacal sociopath who did his level best as Chancellor to f
k every one of us! PR was the least of his sins.
Oh dont be a melodramatic arse. He wasnt a sociopath, far bloody from it.k every one of us! PR was the least of his sins.He was simply a poor leader. He was a detail man with principles, ambition and a blindness to his own faults. In the end like Blair he also showed himself to be a weak and ignorant man. In many ways and aspects of character and personality in fact he shared much with Maggie, but she by contrast was an excellent leader. The difference in their characters was that she had utter confidence in herself whereas Brown lacked in many ways any confidence in himself.
F93 said:
I wish the conservatives had someone as will-powered as Thatcher again (not starting that debate, just her 'i'm gonna do it anyway' attitude).
+ 1 zillionNot because of her policies, particularly, i just think the country would be a better place if all the political factions had leaders who were motivated by some principle or vision and were prepared to work to make it happen. Nowadays they all just jostle about with soundbites and perception over a little patch of middle ground - there's not a hair breadth between them in anything of substance.
F93 said:
Apparently a lot of Tory voters are swinging over to UKIP now, as they're getting tired of the tory's complete inaction on anything to do with the EU. Maybe now the Lib Dems are screwed, the new third largest party will be UKIP? I'd like to see that happen...
I voted UKIP not because I thought they had a chance but because I wanted the Tory's to realise why they were losing votes and it seems we've failed.I'll vote UKIP again next time if only for their AGW stance and for whoever does win to take another look at how much power we have given and will give to Europe.
DJC said:
Oh dont be a melodramatic arse. He wasnt a sociopath, far bloody from it.
>I believe he was.
He was simply a poor leader.
>Yes. Very.
He was a detail man with principles, ambition and a blindness to his own faults.
>Aggressive, rude, arrogant, filled with hate and a complete bully.
In the end like Blair he also showed himself to be a weak and ignorant man. In many ways and aspects of character and personality in fact he shared much with Maggie, but she by contrast was an excellent leader. The difference in their characters was that she had utter confidence in herself whereas Brown lacked in many ways any confidence in himself.
>Maggie did what she did to make Britain greater.
>Brown did what he did to try to make HIMSELF greater.
>I believe he was.
He was simply a poor leader.
>Yes. Very.
He was a detail man with principles, ambition and a blindness to his own faults.
>Aggressive, rude, arrogant, filled with hate and a complete bully.
In the end like Blair he also showed himself to be a weak and ignorant man. In many ways and aspects of character and personality in fact he shared much with Maggie, but she by contrast was an excellent leader. The difference in their characters was that she had utter confidence in herself whereas Brown lacked in many ways any confidence in himself.
>Maggie did what she did to make Britain greater.
>Brown did what he did to try to make HIMSELF greater.
The inside reports show that Brown was a sociopath; the thrown mobiles, the pens stabbed into the back of the seats of the Jaguars, the barging past staff, the shouting, swearing and then, finally, and most obviously, the Gillian Duffy incident.
His continued absurd belief that he led the world to salvation in 2008 is the extra evidence not needed for the diagnosis.
His continued absurd belief that he led the world to salvation in 2008 is the extra evidence not needed for the diagnosis.
Zod said:
The inside reports show that Brown was a sociopath; the thrown mobiles, the pens stabbed into the back of the seats of the Jaguars, the barging past staff, the shouting, swearing and then, finally, and most obviously, the Gillian Duffy incident.
His continued absurd belief that he led the world to salvation in 2008 is the extra evidence not needed for the diagnosis.
Which brings me back to ask.His continued absurd belief that he led the world to salvation in 2008 is the extra evidence not needed for the diagnosis.
If the system isn't broken how did he get to be PM?
Zod said:
thinfourth2 said:
Which brings me back to ask.
If the system isn't broken how did he get to be PM?
The Labour Party's system for electing a leader is most definitely broken.If the system isn't broken how did he get to be PM?
Nothing to do with an electral system which favours back stabbing self interested t
ts over good leaders.its labours fault
Zod said:
The inside reports show that Brown was a sociopath; the thrown mobiles, the pens stabbed into the back of the seats of the Jaguars, the barging past staff, the shouting, swearing and then, finally, and most obviously, the Gillian Duffy incident.
His continued absurd belief that he led the world to salvation in 2008 is the extra evidence not needed for the diagnosis.
That isnt a sociopath for God sake. Ive thrown my mobile. Ive thrown and seen many objects thrown in offices. Its why we have little squishy squashy "stress relief" toys in offices now. Ive pounded seat backs, steering wheels, hell I once kicked my straw laundary basket to death. I barge past people, ignore some utterly, swear and generally treat people with complete and utter contempt half the time. I do it on here to most of ph. Ive done it to you more than a few times. The Gillian duffy incident just prooved he was a muppet, not anything more. It doesnt make me a sociopath, it just makes me another fHis continued absurd belief that he led the world to salvation in 2008 is the extra evidence not needed for the diagnosis.
ked human with their own problems.Brown was just a bloke in over his head for the job he had. The rest of the Labour party was weak and spineless for tolerating him.
We've all done such things from time to time. Read Tom Bradby's book; with Brown it was his normal behaviour.
The feature of the typical sociopath(according to the web articles availalbe to the amateur) that he most certainly never had is the ability to appear utterly charming while plotting against you.
The feature of the typical sociopath(according to the web articles availalbe to the amateur) that he most certainly never had is the ability to appear utterly charming while plotting against you.
UKIP stands a massive chance next time. CMD wants a purple party (it even gets whispered round here in his constituency).
You can see why. Take the recent by-election which Lab won. Combine the Lib-Dem vote and Tory and they would have beaten Lab.
However, current opinion poll shows 11 point Lab lead. Even combined Tory/Lib would only draw level.
There are lots of impatient disgruntled, even angry Tories, and the Lib'Dems - well they are finished. If CMD gets his way both Tory and Libs will disintegrate, most especially if there is no upturn in the economy (which imo is highly likely!). UKIP appears quiet but not behind the scenes.
When it is seen what is happening, the votes will head UKIP's way, disillusioned Lab voters will also think, let's give it a try. Everyone with sense wants our independence back and only UKIP can supply.
You can see why. Take the recent by-election which Lab won. Combine the Lib-Dem vote and Tory and they would have beaten Lab.
However, current opinion poll shows 11 point Lab lead. Even combined Tory/Lib would only draw level.
There are lots of impatient disgruntled, even angry Tories, and the Lib'Dems - well they are finished. If CMD gets his way both Tory and Libs will disintegrate, most especially if there is no upturn in the economy (which imo is highly likely!). UKIP appears quiet but not behind the scenes.
When it is seen what is happening, the votes will head UKIP's way, disillusioned Lab voters will also think, let's give it a try. Everyone with sense wants our independence back and only UKIP can supply.
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