Another MP Accused of lying about speeding ticket.
Discussion
Holy thread resurrection etc.
The local paper has done a piece about her book: https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/e...
The local paper has done a piece about her book: https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/e...
Europa1 said:
Holy thread resurrection etc.
The local paper has done a piece about her book: https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/e...
I think PH gets a mention towards the very end of that article. The local paper has done a piece about her book: https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/e...
And.. what is so wrong trying to evade (admittedly v badly) a misdemeanour speeding ticket??
When did the UK turn into the PtCoJ Stasi ?
More utterly excessive anti speeding hysteria ‘enforcement ‘.
There was time when most on PH would’ve celebrated the opportunity to fight this 35 in a 30 nonsense rather than piling on mob mentality style to celebrate somebody’s admittedly rather incompetent misfortune.
I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, ridiculously excessive penalties. Police state.
When did the UK turn into the PtCoJ Stasi ?
More utterly excessive anti speeding hysteria ‘enforcement ‘.
There was time when most on PH would’ve celebrated the opportunity to fight this 35 in a 30 nonsense rather than piling on mob mentality style to celebrate somebody’s admittedly rather incompetent misfortune.
I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, ridiculously excessive penalties. Police state.
TimoMak said:
And.. what is so wrong trying to evade (admittedly v badly) a misdemeanour speeding ticket??
When did the UK turn into the PtCoJ Stasi ?
More utterly excessive anti speeding hysteria ‘enforcement ‘.
There was time when most on PH would’ve celebrated the opportunity to fight this 35 in a 30 nonsense rather than piling on mob mentality style to celebrate somebody’s admittedly rather incompetent misfortune.
I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, ridiculously excessive penalties. Police state.
Sure, and we’d all be celebrating her attempt to get away with speeding had she been in something other than a Micra, it’s as simple as that. When did the UK turn into the PtCoJ Stasi ?
More utterly excessive anti speeding hysteria ‘enforcement ‘.
There was time when most on PH would’ve celebrated the opportunity to fight this 35 in a 30 nonsense rather than piling on mob mentality style to celebrate somebody’s admittedly rather incompetent misfortune.
I’ve said it before I’ll say it again, ridiculously excessive penalties. Police state.
I fundamentally disagree with the fact that the current law forces one to incriminate oneself (or the person who was driving). It should be up to the police to prove who was driving (and yes, I realise that means cameras wouldn't work unless forward facing). To be subject to PTCOJ for failure to incriminate the culprit is a vicious sledgehammer to crack a very small nut.
I, however, think that, if one has committed the offence under the current regime, then one should own up to it and pay the fine / take the points. If you are on a dangerous amount of points, then there is a very simple remedy: don't speed. If you get banned, then you will need to take taxis everywhere.
Do not concoct a story that someone else was driving. If you do that and get caught, then you will have a criminal record.
The law may be unfair and draconian but that is the law (despite being challenged in the past). She was monumentally stupid to try to game the system and paid a huge price - but she knew exactly what that price was when she started down that road. As such, the punishment she got was fully deserved.
In the spirit of openness, I did once think of challenging a NIP when I'd been speeding. It was incorrectly addressed to my wife (I was the registered keeper but the insurance for that car was in her name). There were a couple of other details on it which were incorrect. I wondered out loud, if that might give me some wriggle room to get out of it. My wife said "No, because I sent the form back this morning telling them you were driving." I paid the fine, took the three points and moved on. Life is too short.
I, however, think that, if one has committed the offence under the current regime, then one should own up to it and pay the fine / take the points. If you are on a dangerous amount of points, then there is a very simple remedy: don't speed. If you get banned, then you will need to take taxis everywhere.
Do not concoct a story that someone else was driving. If you do that and get caught, then you will have a criminal record.
The law may be unfair and draconian but that is the law (despite being challenged in the past). She was monumentally stupid to try to game the system and paid a huge price - but she knew exactly what that price was when she started down that road. As such, the punishment she got was fully deserved.
In the spirit of openness, I did once think of challenging a NIP when I'd been speeding. It was incorrectly addressed to my wife (I was the registered keeper but the insurance for that car was in her name). There were a couple of other details on it which were incorrect. I wondered out loud, if that might give me some wriggle room to get out of it. My wife said "No, because I sent the form back this morning telling them you were driving." I paid the fine, took the three points and moved on. Life is too short.
AstonZagato said:
In the spirit of openness, I did once think of challenging a NIP when I'd been speeding. It was incorrectly addressed to my wife (I was the registered keeper but the insurance for that car was in her name). There were a couple of other details on it which were incorrect. I wondered out loud, if that might give me some wriggle room to get out of it. My wife said "No, because I sent the form back this morning telling them you were driving." I paid the fine, took the three points and moved on. Life is too short.
One of the problems with the current system is that sometimes the wife would have sent it back and paid the fine or taken the course thinking it was her that was actually driving when it wasnt i.e. perverted the course of justice if anyone found out.A PH er a few years back posted that he'd found out what had happened, contacted the authorities and managed to get it cancelled off without any ensuing case against the wife
saaby93 said:
One of the problems with the current system is that sometimes the wife would have sent it back and paid the fine or taken the course thinking it was her that was actually driving when it wasnt i.e. perverted the course of justice if anyone found out.
A PH er a few years back posted that he'd found out what had happened, contacted the authorities and managed to get it cancelled off without any ensuing case against the wife
PCJ requires intent.A PH er a few years back posted that he'd found out what had happened, contacted the authorities and managed to get it cancelled off without any ensuing case against the wife
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