45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 4)
Discussion
coyft said:
You hardly need a tweet or a speech. Just watch the Russians boarding the aeroplane.
Nope you do - you really do. The US President needs to stand up and say something to rally the West. He says nothing - apart from calling his buddy Vlad to congratulate him on his recent election "victory".For a guy who is so quick, so very quick, to openly deride, insult and attempt to humiliate those he considers to be his enemies, his reluctance to do the same when it comes to Putin is glaring.
Tallow said:
coyft said:
Jesus, you lot are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
On the 15th March: Trump: 'It certainly looks like' Russia was behind UK attack.
On the 26th March Trump expels 60 Russians.
But because he didn't tweet about it, it can't be true.
You seriously think that (15 March statement) constitutes a public denouncement? He brags about literally anything and everything that he does on Twitter, yet says nothing about this - and you don't find that... odd?On the 15th March: Trump: 'It certainly looks like' Russia was behind UK attack.
On the 26th March Trump expels 60 Russians.
But because he didn't tweet about it, it can't be true.
Maybe he isn't compromised by the Russians. Maybe the one thing an habitual bully is afraid of is an even bigger bully. Maybe a characteristic of narcissism is admiration of other narcissists. Maybe he just doesn't give a st. Who knows what the reason is. One thing that surely you must see as being odd is that not only is his rhetoric somewhat out of step with the rest of the world leaders involved in this, it's also out of step with his own self aggrandising style.
I really don't think that questioning these things means those asking the question are suffering from "Trump Derangement Syndrome."
It’s literally one thing after another with this fairground barker. America is a worldwide laughing stock.... Anyone still defending him really needs to take a long think about why they are doing so.
coyft said:
You mean you do and the rest of the people on this thread that suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Really, this is becoming ridiculous and pathetic. Every single news source reports it as Trump expels Russians.
This is why it is pointless trying to engage in any useful debate. It's like trying to tell an Israeli Jew that the Palestinians might have suffered an injustice.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/26/politics/us-exp...
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-exp...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-expels-60-russia...
What was the point of repeating the headlines we already know?Really, this is becoming ridiculous and pathetic. Every single news source reports it as Trump expels Russians.
This is why it is pointless trying to engage in any useful debate. It's like trying to tell an Israeli Jew that the Palestinians might have suffered an injustice.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/26/politics/us-exp...
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-exp...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-expels-60-russia...
What has Trump actually said about this?
My hunch is that he is frothing at the mouth in anger that he has been overidden by his security team,. Let's see who he fires next.
coyft said:
Meanwhile Trumps approval rating climbs to 42%, highest rating in 11 months. (CNN)
Just 4% behind Obama at this point in his first term.
Quite remarkable.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/26/politics/cnn-po...
Lordy, don't quote that, the clockwork idiots here will explode.....Gods teeth, the amusement is profound !!Just 4% behind Obama at this point in his first term.
Quite remarkable.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/26/politics/cnn-po...
Having read those CNN stats in full, actually it is a pretty damning review of his ‘presidency’. Pretty much all of those numbers suggest the majority to be critical of him in nearly every area. In fact, he only has approval on a single of the questions.
A very poor showing.
Still, apparently, this counts as good news for his supporters.
A very poor showing.
Still, apparently, this counts as good news for his supporters.
paulguitar said:
Having read those CNN stats in full, actually it is a pretty damning review of his ‘presidency’. Pretty much all of those numbers suggest the majority to be critical of him in nearly every area. In fact, he only has approval on a single of the questions.
A very poor showing.
Still, apparently, this counts as good news for his supporters.
"I'm Donald Trump and I'm not completely st" A very poor showing.
Still, apparently, this counts as good news for his supporters.
In all seriousness, the Russians must have something on him. If he is running around having unprotected intercourse with pornstars (likely many others that stay quiet) then his trips to Russia as a businessman with no intention of a political career would very likely come with women that are his cup of tea thrown in for his entertainment.
Completely plausible and wouldn’t come as any surprise due to Donald being Donald. lection campaign (lots of media) and victory (President of the US ffs) are irresistible to a narcist of this level to turn down. Unfortunately for Donald, skeletons are about to come cascading out of the cupboard via Russia I think.
Completely plausible and wouldn’t come as any surprise due to Donald being Donald. lection campaign (lots of media) and victory (President of the US ffs) are irresistible to a narcist of this level to turn down. Unfortunately for Donald, skeletons are about to come cascading out of the cupboard via Russia I think.
minimoog said:
FN2TypeR said:
DJI is down over 2000 points since the end of Jan. I must have missed him taking responsibility for that - can anyone link me up?He is so, so pathetically weak and insecure.
Remember when he tried to take credit for civil aviation having a safe year?
paulguitar said:
The way he takes credit for good days on the markets and ignores the bad ones really makes me wince.
He is so, so pathetically weak and insecure.
Remember when he tried to take credit for civil aviation having a safe year?
I'm waiting for him to claim responsibility for Stormy swallowing the evidence. :laughHe is so, so pathetically weak and insecure.
Remember when he tried to take credit for civil aviation having a safe year?
smn159 said:
Zod said:
You are very much missing the point: Trump tweets about all manner of irrelevant st, but cannot be bothered to do so about geopolitically important matters.
Trump is clearly a tactical genius and has lulled Putin into a false sense of security by congratulating him on the rigged election before expelling loads of diplomats.Alternatively.. Trump still clings onto the naive hope that he can be Putins friend and ignored the clear 'Do Not Congratulate' note on his briefing paper and has had to be taken aside by the grown ups and told what to do.
BUT.
American foreign policy has been disastrous for much of the world for decades. The perpetual state of war and tension, invasions and interference, the extra-judicial drone attacks, and even their lack of action at times; it's pretty much all failed.
If Trump is taking a different approach to normal then maybe that could be a good thing overall.
Having said that, he's just taken on John Bolton who thinks the Iraq invasion was a good thing, so we're probably about to see more of the same.
AreOut said:
I wonder how many people that criticise Trump for being too friendly with Putin would go to war against Russia? How many of you know how to dig a trench?
I can dig a trench better than Trump. Two questions for you: Is it a straight choice between war and being Putin's bh? And how successful do you feel appeasement has been in the past?
coyft said:
Every single news source reports it as Trump expels Russians.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/26/politics/us-exp...
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-exp...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-expels-60-russia...
Coyft can only read headlines - not look actually into the story.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/26/politics/us-exp...
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-exp...
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-expels-60-russia...
Everyone of those links says the trump administration expelled the diplomats - or quote a 'senior administration official' saying Trump ordered it - along with every other report on the story.
coyft said:
Meanwhile Trumps approval rating climbs to 42%, highest rating in 11 months. (CNN)
Just 4% behind Obama at this point in his first term.
Quite remarkable.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/26/politics/cnn-po...
Just 4% behind Obama at this point in his first term.
Quite remarkable.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/26/politics/cnn-po...
paulguitar said:
Having read those CNN stats in full, actually it is a pretty damning review of his ‘presidency’. Pretty much all of those numbers suggest the majority to be critical of him in nearly every area. In fact, he only has approval on a single of the questions.
A very poor showing.
Still, apparently, this counts as good news for his supporters.
Again Coyft only reads the headlines - the report clearly states more people disapprove of his actions and presidency over every category apart from how he's handling the economy and thats closeA very poor showing.
Still, apparently, this counts as good news for his supporters.
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/03/26/rel4a.-.t...
Since we're talking polls - only 21% believe Trump over Daniels
Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 27th March 08:20
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