Theresa May (Vol.2)
Discussion
voyds9 said:
Just announced the party does have confidence in the prime minister
Yes 200
No 117
That buggers up any vote on her deal. So now we have a zombie in power. Yes 200
No 117
So where does that leave us?
Not sure if Corbyn actually wants to be landed with the poison chalice at this point - he'd be insane to call a vote of confidence in the government at this point.
May (probably) cannot get her deal through parliament.
The EU doesn't have the capacity to budge.
No, we're not going to get A50 revoked (or at least I can't see any mechanism to get us there).
Second Ref doesn't help anyone at this point (and let's face it, Blair is actually worse than May).
I don't *think* may wants to get to March 29th with no deal, but it would be a blessed release, "I did my best, we have prepared, this is Brexit" etc. etc.
Maybe we now see some back room deal where someone else agrees to take over with a new proposal to break the log jam?
Certainly right now, this is as damp a squib as the A50 ruling on Monday. Nothing has really changed, May's deal is not acceptable to the majority of parliament. But at least we know our resident troll will support anything if he thinks it'll get a rise.
alfie2244 said:
1/3rd of your MP's don't want you.......... Hardly a vote of confidence really though......how is she going to get anything through parliament?
She won by a convincing majority. Significantly more than 52%.You must respect the WILL OF THE PEOPLE and our SOVEREIGN DEMOCRACY and back her without question. Get over it.
OzzyR1 said:
p1stonhead said:
So nearly half her party doesn’t have confidence. Not exactly good news really.
It's not "nearly half". By your own measure, you could say that nearly three-quarters of her party do have confidence in her!!
sim72 said:
Ironically, 200 is one more than she got last time - 199, and there were 13 more Tory MPs for that one as well.
That's been trotted out by the party, but you have to recognise that a choice between two people or a choice between one person and *someone* else is a very different question.Now look at the Parliamentary arithmetic, out of 650 MPs, 200 support the PM. She won't resign, but this situation is not recoverable at all.
JPJPJP said:
How long before opposition lays down motion of no confidence in government? Can they hold back until 21 jan?
Honestly? 30th of March would be my guess. Corbyn isn't touching Brexit with a bargepole when he can stroll into No 10 without having to lift a finger if he just shows a little patience.Juanco20 said:
Greg66 said:
Ooops.
And these rebels are the people who would have us believe that their skills would extract a fabulous deal from the EU in nothing flat?
They can’t even organise a fking coup, the useless incompetent s.
As he says, look at the result of the vote from those not on the payroll And these rebels are the people who would have us believe that their skills would extract a fabulous deal from the EU in nothing flat?
They can’t even organise a fking coup, the useless incompetent s.
The result of the vote is that she stays. The ERG knew the rules. They knew how many votes they’d need to get her out. They canvassed hard to get their 48 letters, and they know they l’d need a lot more than 48 votes to make this fly.
They fked it. They weren’t even close. And they’ve handed her another year, bulletproof from attack.
Bunch of incompetent idiots. Came at the king, and missed.
How anyone can give any credence to the idea that any of them could, or could have, extracted a deal of any value from the EU is laughable.
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