Climate protesters block roads

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turbobloke

104,551 posts

262 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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amusingduck said:
Looks like a thoroughly miserable way to spend 2 weeks. Surely that can't be doing her mental health any good? It's disgusting the way she's being used
yes

The weaponising of children is an act of desperation due to democracy not overthrowing itself and capitalism too when faced with hyperbolic environmental doomsaying. Not that it will, hence the increasingly extreme protests, in which there's a silver lining as they will kiss off more and more people who were previously passive-sympathetic.



'Capitalism - as if the world matters'

Glandular stuff but it goes down well with the useful bipeds and anarchists/marxists.

Edited by turbobloke on Wednesday 14th August 09:43

mcdjl

5,453 posts

197 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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https://www.thejournal.ie/greta-thunberg-4764828-Aug2019/ said:
“It just shows how impossible it is to live sustainably today — it’s absurd that you have to sail across the Atlantic Ocean like this to get there with no emissions,” Thunberg said in the English port of Plymouth.

But I feel like since I’m one of the few people in the world who can actually do this I want to take that opportunity to do it.
Actually no. Its not surprising at all. For thousands of years the only way to get across water has been rowing/paddling or sailing. Then we invented burning things to make things go. That hasn't changed. You might put a wind mill on a ship rater than sails, but its still the wind that makes it go. You might cover the whole surface in solar panels but the drag is enough they won't get you far.
Basically, shes going and all the other celebrity faces are because they want to go and because they want to be seen to be there. It she wanted to talk at it, isn't that what video conferencing is all about? We can hear them just as well that way.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

232 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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amusingduck said:
Bucket-List redefined.

turbobloke

104,551 posts

262 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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mcdjl said:
https://www.thejournal.ie/greta-thunberg-4764828-Aug2019/ said:
“It just shows how impossible it is to live sustainably today — it’s absurd that you have to sail across the Atlantic Ocean like this to get there with no emissions,” Thunberg said in the English port of Plymouth.

But I feel like since I’m one of the few people in the world who can actually do this I want to take that opportunity to do it.
Actually no. Its not surprising at all. For thousands of years the only way to get across water has been rowing/paddling or sailing. Then we invented burning things to make things go. That hasn't changed. You might put a wind mill on a ship rater than sails, but its still the wind that makes it go. You might cover the whole surface in solar panels but the drag is enough they won't get you far.
Basically, shes going and all the other celebrity faces are because they want to go and because they want to be seen to be there. It she wanted to talk at it, isn't that what video conferencing is all about? We can hear them just as well that way.
Sure but as the Kyoto delegate said back in the 90s 'the trouble with planting trees is that it won't bring about the societal changes we want to achieve'.

Give up luxury goods, mechanised transport, go vegan and regress to a localised medieval lifestyle then we'll be fine nuts

Just in case anyone thinks that the alarmists' aim of returning society to a localised medieval existence is fiction:

Attendee report of a Tyndall Centre Emission Reduction Conference in 2013 said:
Given the academic reputation of the Tyndall Centre and of course the credentials of the Royal Society, I was hoping for a useful discussion on rapid deployment of technologies such as CCS, how the world might breathe new life into nuclear and other such topics, but this was far from the content of the sessions that I was able to attend. Rather, this was a room of catastrophists (as in “catastrophic global warming”), with the prevailing view, at least to my ears, that the issue could only be addressed by the complete transformation of the global energy and political systems, with the latter moving to one of state control and regulated consumerism. There would be no room for “ruthless individualism” in such a world. The poster papers that dotted the lecture theatre lobby area covered topics as diverse as vegan diets to an eventual return to low technology hunter-gatherer societies.

Much to my surprise I was not really at an emission reduction conference (despite the label saying I was), but a political ideology conference.
No ecological fruits there, just ideological nuts.

over_the_hill

3,194 posts

248 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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Europa1 said:
....How was the boat built?......
My understanding is that this is a racing yacht so something like the sea-going equivalent of a Lear Jet. I would imagine the carbon footprint building it is massive and in its lifetime it will probably only be used by a few dozen people at most.

untakenname

4,982 posts

194 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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Great timing to cross the Atlantic in Hurricane season in a flimsy sailing boat, it's almost as if her minders want a martyr for the cause.....

Randy Winkman

16,502 posts

191 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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turbobloke said:
amusingduck said:
Looks like a thoroughly miserable way to spend 2 weeks. Surely that can't be doing her mental health any good? It's disgusting the way she's being used
yes

The weaponising of children is an act of desperation due to democracy not overthrowing itself and capitalism too when faced with hyperbolic environmental doomsaying. Not that it will, hence the increasingly extreme protests, in which there's a silver lining as they will kiss off more and more people who were previously passive-sympathetic.



'Capitalism - as if the world matters'

Glandular stuff but it goes down well with the useful bipeds and anarchists/marxists.

Edited by turbobloke on Wednesday 14th August 09:43
I've heard that some young people even go trekking or camping all over the world when they could afford to stay at Pontins at Camber Sands. Utter madness. rolleyes

Cold

15,301 posts

92 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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Smiler. said:
amusingduck said:
Bucket-List redefined.
She could spend the time on her voyage removing that rogue apostrophe.

otolith

56,764 posts

206 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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Cold said:
Smiler. said:
amusingduck said:
Bucket-List redefined.
She could spend the time on her voyage removing that rogue apostrophe.
Maybe that's what they call her?

Mark Benson

7,566 posts

271 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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otolith said:
Cold said:
Smiler. said:
amusingduck said:
Bucket-List redefined.
She could spend the time on her voyage removing that rogue apostrophe.
Maybe that's what they call her?
claphehe

St Greta 'Person of Odd Outlook' of Aspergia, or POO for short

Pesty

42,655 posts

258 months

A Winner Is You

25,031 posts

229 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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over_the_hill said:
Europa1 said:
....How was the boat built?......
My understanding is that this is a racing yacht so something like the sea-going equivalent of a Lear Jet. I would imagine the carbon footprint building it is massive and in its lifetime it will probably only be used by a few dozen people at most.
Maybe we should go back to cutting down forests to make ships......

Cold

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92 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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A Winner Is You said:
Maybe we should go back to cutting down forests to make ships......
It's a good idea, especially if the trees are planted for that purpose. We'd have lots of new forests.


In other news, Thunberg has been named by GQ (UK) as their "Game Changer of The Year".
(No, I don't know what that means either.)


Graveworm

8,526 posts

73 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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Cold said:
It's a good idea, especially if the trees are planted for that purpose. We'd have lots of new forests.


In other news, Thunberg has been named by GQ (UK) as their "Game Changer of The Year".
(No, I don't know what that means either.)
Mousetrap is now fatcat trap because of the blatant unrestrained victimisation of mice. In monopoly the players all get houses and then throw paint on the banker.

Europa1

10,923 posts

190 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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Cold said:
In other news, Thunberg has been named by GQ (UK) as their "Game Changer of The Year".
(No, I don't know what that means either.)

As I've said before: cold, dead eyes of a killer.

Agammemnon

1,628 posts

60 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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A Winner Is You said:
Maybe we should go back to cutting down forests to make ships......
Provided we plant an acorn or 2 for every oak tree felled I can see the merit in this idea.

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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Europa1 said:
Cold said:
In other news, Thunberg has been named by GQ (UK) as their "Game Changer of The Year".
(No, I don't know what that means either.)

As I've said before: cold, dead eyes of a killer.
Cold dead eyes of an idiot.

She was interviewed the other day and was asked what we should be doing to stop climate change.

She hadn’t one suggestion. According to her, it’s her job to protest against what we have now but you can’t expect children to come up with solutions.

Given that even a basic understanding of what the issues are very quickly leads to myriad ideas for change, in even the simplest mind, I’m convinced she has not the faintest clue of what’s going on, whether it’s an issue or not, what’s being done or could or should be done.

I do hope she turns out to be a poor sailor.

Agammemnon

1,628 posts

60 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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REALIST123 said:
. According to her, it’s her job to protest against what we have now
Did she give the name of the employers? I somehow doubt she's self-employed.

mcdjl

5,453 posts

197 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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REALIST123 said:
I do hope she turns out to be a poor sailor.
I don't. The search and rescue effort will be enormous.....and come with one hell of a carbon foot print.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

230 months

Wednesday 14th August 2019
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Cold said:
It's a good idea, especially if the trees are planted for that purpose. We'd have lots of new forests.


In other news, Thunberg has been named by GQ (UK) as their "Game Changer of The Year".
(No, I don't know what that means either.)

She's now on the front of a magazine. A magazine probably made using lots of printing machines, paper based products and inks. Then the magazines are transported using fossil fuels to various locations.

Such a good climate activist. hehe

To be fair, I don't know what is worse. The agenda of the people pushing her or the agendas of all the luvvies her take her st on board.