45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 4)

[Eric Mc]

coyft said:

Eric you’re such a bore. If you want to enter into an intellectual debate you at least need to challenge me on something specific.

Crack on.

You are the one who is posting up the headlines - you should therefore elaborate on them. If you are bored,may I suggest that this might be your own fault by refusing to engage at a level that is interesting?

[Byker28i]

AreOut said:

coyft said:

I've been rumbled, bigly style.

we used to be called russian trolls now we are just DJT himself, just get used to it

To be fair Areout, you usually try to justify what you've posted.
That can be amazing, funny but at least you try, rather than just post a one liner headline and disappear.

[Byker28i]

coyft said:

Eric Mc said:

coyft said:

It’s pointless trying to debate with the vast majority on this thread. Let’s take you for example, you’ve stated that Trump is a fool, ignorant, narcissist and everything in between. In your eyes he can’t do ANY good.

So I’m just here to point out the facts every now and again. If you challenge me on the facts I’ll happily enter into a debate.

I’m not a Trump supporter, I think all politicians are self serving.

No point in ALLEGING that you are pointing out facts without backing those facts up.

I AM challenging you on the facts behind the headlines you select. Off you go.

Eric you’re such a bore. If you want to enter into an intellectual debate you at least need to challenge me on something specific.

Crack on.

OK, lets start with the trade negotiations that you posted a headline about. I responded with why I thought they didn't actually amount to too much other than a nice headline for the donald and went into details of the deal and why. What's your thoughts into the specifics of the deal?

[paulguitar]

coyft said:

Gameface said:

Coyft, do you genuinely think we are all wrong and you are right?

What have I said that is “wrong”?

You posted a CNN poll that was supposedly good news for Trump that rated him negatively in every single area of performance bar one. And that one was close.

[sugerbear]

Nothing ironic about trump avoiding to release his tax returns and the accusing Amazon of tax avoidance.

or is he just pissed that Bezo's is worth at the very least 60 times more than he is and owns the Washington Post (which happens to be critical of him).

[Byker28i]

sugerbear said:

Nothing ironic about trump avoiding to release his tax returns and the accusing Amazon of tax avoidance.

or is he just pissed that Bezo's is worth at the very least 60 times more than he is and owns the Washington Post (which happens to be critical of him).

"I have stated my concerns with Amazon long before the Election. Unlike others, they pay little or no taxes to state & local governments, use our Postal System as their Delivery Boy (causing tremendous loss to the U.S.), and are putting many thousands of retailers out of business!"

I though the US postal System made a fortune out of Amazon?

This would of course have nothing to do with Amazon purchasing the Washington Post. I wonder what story they are running tomorrow...

and from someone who said he was a genius because he paid no taxes...

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 29th March 16:27

[paulguitar]

sugerbear said:

Nothing ironic about trump avoiding to release his tax returns and the accusing Amazon of tax avoidance.

or is he just pissed that Bezo's is worth at the very least 60 times more than he is and owns the Washington Post (which happens to be critical of him).

I was thinking it was pretty amazing he would go after anyone on taxes. I just think though that he is so far away from any kind of reality that he does not even notice his own hypocrisy.

What ever did happen to those promised tax returns?

[Countdown]

paulguitar said:

I was thinking it was pretty amazing he would go after anyone on taxes. I just think though that he is so far away from any kind of reality that he does not even notice his own hypocrisy.

What ever did happen to those promised tax returns?

I think the problem is the sheer number of lies, half-truths and examples of hypocrisy that he could be challenged on, mean that people literally get tired of challenging him. There isn't enough time to build up a critical mass to challenge him because it gets diluted across so many different topics e.g. taxes, bribing porn stars, colluding with Russia, implementing stupid trade policies, general lying, specific lying.....it just goes on and on.

This is just the financial shenanigans that Trump and his appointees has been involved with

[Tony33]

paulguitar said:

sugerbear said:

Nothing ironic about trump avoiding to release his tax returns and the accusing Amazon of tax avoidance.

or is he just pissed that Bezo's is worth at the very least 60 times more than he is and owns the Washington Post (which happens to be critical of him).

I was thinking it was pretty amazing he would go after anyone on taxes. I just think though that he is so far away from any kind of reality that he does not even notice his own hypocrisy.

What ever did happen to those promised tax returns?

Didn't he claim he was being smart by avoiding paying tax? Maybe that is the issue, someone being smarter than him (as if!)?

[Byker28i]

Kushner in the Saudi prince pocket as he tries to get funding for his real estate business which owes a lot.
This is a man without security clearance who got hold of every briefing possible...

Mueller is investigating his loans and business deals....

[ScudNorth]

Seventy said:

Byker28i said:

SO we now know why Mannafort was playing hard ball, Trumps lawyer Dowd was dangling a presidential pardon in front of him and Flynn. We know Trump also kept in contact with them.
Thats witness tampering - surely. Obstruction of Justice.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-law...

So Dowd dangles the carrot.
I should imagine it goes something like: 'we're in deep st here boys. Say nothing, take your punishment and don't worry - the President himself has said he'll pardon you for saving his ass'

Where's the obstruction?

https://www.justsecurity.org/54356/dangling-pardon-obstruction-justice-even-pardon-power-absolute/

[Seventy]

ScudNorth said:

https://www.justsecurity.org/54356/dangling-pardon...

Interesting, thank you.

[p1stonhead]

[Europa1]

Although I understand (particularly with this administration) that reporters want to keep their accreditation, back channels, informal briefings etc, I am constantly surprised that the White House press corps doesn't give this administration a harder ride. They could start with the simple questions: Before taking office, Donald Trump sent 27 tweets criticising President Obama for how often he played golf. In his eight years as President, Obama played golf 29 times. In his first year as president, Donald Trump has played golf 44 times. Please explain.

Then they could move onto the more substantive stuff: In relation to Stormy Daniels, please explain why, if there is nothing to the allegations, there is (a) an NDA, and (b) why the President's personal lawyer, his PERSONAL lawyer, paid US$130,000 of his own money, not the Donald Trump's money, but a qualified, registered, bound-by-professional-conduct-rules lawyer, to Stormy Daniels. And perhaps the President's spokesperson could also comment on why, given his vociferous criticism of Hillary Clinton for use of a personal email server whilst Secretary of State, it is appropriate for the personal attorney of the President of the USA, the Commander in Chief of the USA's armed forces and intelligence services, to use a gmail account?

[minimoog]

President Genius addressing a crowd of construction workers in Richfield, Oh., on America spending $7 trillion

Trump said:

Seven trillion with a T.

Nobody ever heard of the word ‘trillion’ until 10 years ago.

[FN2TypeR]

[Vanden Saab]

minimoog said:

President Genius addressing a crowd of construction workers in Richfield, Oh., on America spending $7 trillion

Trump said:

Seven trillion with a T.

Nobody ever heard of the word ‘trillion’ until 10 years ago.

Taking that statement literally I can understand your point, yes I know it probably dates from the 15th century or something, but in reality he is not far wrong. With the exception of a few scientists and mathematicians no one had ever heard of a trillion it certainly wasn't in everyday use as it seems to be now.

[maddog993]

Vanden Saab said:

Taking that statement literally I can understand your point, yes I know it probably dates from the 15th century or something, but in reality he is not far wrong. With the exception of a few scientists and mathematicians no one had ever heard of a trillion it certainly wasn't in everyday use as it seems to be now.

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/01/06/us/reagan-sends-1-trillion-budget-to-congress-and-battle-is-joined.html
(edited for poor link, sorry)

Edited by maddog993 on Thursday 29th March 22:56

[Seventy]

Vanden Saab said:

Taking that statement literally I can understand your point, yes I know it probably dates from the 15th century or something, but in reality he is not far wrong. With the exception of a few scientists and mathematicians no one had ever heard of a trillion it certainly wasn't in everyday use as it seems to be now.

?
I certainly remember trillions in maths at school in the 70/80’s.
You sure you’re not thinking of a googol? I’d agree with you on that.

[FN2TypeR]

Vanden Saab said:

Taking that statement literally I can understand your point, yes I know it probably dates from the 15th century or something, but in reality he is not far wrong. With the exception of a few scientists and mathematicians no one had ever heard of a trillion it certainly wasn't in everyday use as it seems to be now.

Total nonsense