Jeremy Corbyn (Vol. 3)
Discussion
The Dangerous Elk said:
deadslow said:
Maybot and the Tory incompetents have already pushed the nuclear button on the economy.
??Interest rates must be going up quickly and employment levels must be crashing then.
Burwood said:
and as bad as they are, are still a clear 7 points ahead of Corbyns Loons. What that tells you is, as bad as things are, they aren't 'that' bad 
No, it doesn't tell me that at all. The current carry in is pretty awful, just that JC and his chums are even more incompetent still. Which is just as well!Henners said:
6/10
-3 Because didn’t mention Thatcher.
+4 Did mention food bank use but ignored increased number of food banks.
Why would I mention Thatcher? I do not agree with her politics but she was a strong, fantastic leader under whom we would never be participating in the arse end of the barrel scraping we are currently engaged in. I just find it hilarious that do many people focus so much attention on one man since he came to lead the opposition. If you spent at much time telling your local MP what a f-3 Because didn’t mention Thatcher.
+4 Did mention food bank use but ignored increased number of food banks.
k up they are making, and that mediocrity is not acceptable even when the national bar of acceptance is set so low, regardless of their party, we may be further down the road than we currently are. But for some, it's the squirrels that matter....biggbn said:
Why would I mention Thatcher? I do not agree with her politics but she was a strong, fantastic leader under whom we would never be participating in the arse end of the barrel scraping we are currently engaged in. I just find it hilarious that do many people focus so much attention on one man since he came to lead the opposition. If you spent at much time telling your local MP what a fk up they are making, and that mediocrity is not acceptable even when the national bar of acceptance is set so low, regardless of their party, we may be further down the road than we currently are. But for some, it's the squirrels that matter....
Yes, you are so much cleverer than us poor sheep, well done. k up they are making, and that mediocrity is not acceptable even when the national bar of acceptance is set so low, regardless of their party, we may be further down the road than we currently are. But for some, it's the squirrels that matter....Gargamel said:
Yes, you are so much cleverer than us poor sheep, well done.
Mmm, not sure where in any of my posts you read that sentiment? This is a strange place, if one offers an alternative opinion one is immediately insulted? Where did you learn that behaviour? The playground? Ah, no, it will have been the house of commons such is the filter down effect from our inspirational leaders. Braying, bullying oafs most of them who would not know an original thought if it bit their arse. biggbn said:
Mmm, not sure where in any of my posts you read that sentiment? This is a strange place, if one offers an alternative opinion one is immediately insulted? Where did you learn that behaviour? The playground? Ah, no, it will have been the house of commons such is the filter down effect from our inspirational leaders. Braying, bullying oafs most of them who would not know an original thought if it bit their arse.
As Comoradi pointed out on the last page - you've come on to a topic specifically about Corbyn, to whinge about people discussing Corbyn.Then you use it as an opportunity to point out the current government's failings, which almost everybody would agree on, yet you make out it's only someone such as yourself that is capable of questioning this government, yet there are pages and pages of criticism of the current government on here.
biggbn said:
You guys are moaning about a guy in opposition with no power when we have a government who award shipping contracts to companies with no ships, assure the public everything is OK, assure the public no taxpayers money was spent in awarding this contract then take the contract away and say 800,000 of tax payers money was spent for audit purposes, an audit during which said companies lack of ships was presumably not noticed?
A government who had now admitted their cock up of implementing universal credit HAS led to an increase in food bank use, thank you Amber Rudd for finally coming clean.
A government who continues with the hostile environment for the windrush generation and anyone else 'other'
...and a government that has had two and a half years to come up with a cogent withdrawal plan yet are still scrabbling for scraps from the adult table like recalcitrant teenagers at a wedding...
...but yeah, it's all corbyn fault
Hahahahahaha
Is this thread not another example.of what said government do every time they fk up.....
.....look, a squirrel....
No but in your world the Labour Party offer an alternative to mainstream politics.A government who had now admitted their cock up of implementing universal credit HAS led to an increase in food bank use, thank you Amber Rudd for finally coming clean.
A government who continues with the hostile environment for the windrush generation and anyone else 'other'
...and a government that has had two and a half years to come up with a cogent withdrawal plan yet are still scrabbling for scraps from the adult table like recalcitrant teenagers at a wedding...
...but yeah, it's all corbyn fault
Hahahahahaha
Is this thread not another example.of what said government do every time they f
k up..........look, a squirrel....
Edited by biggbn on Wednesday 13th February 14:20
Slagathore said:
As Comoradi pointed out on the last page - you've come on to a topic specifically about Corbyn, to whinge about people discussing Corbyn.
Then you use it as an opportunity to point out the current government's failings, which almost everybody would agree on, yet you make out it's only someone such as yourself that is capable of questioning this government, yet there are pages and pages of criticism of the current government on here.
Thanks for clarifying that. I feel suitably stupid now. Chastised. I will not be distracted by such squirrels again. Then you use it as an opportunity to point out the current government's failings, which almost everybody would agree on, yet you make out it's only someone such as yourself that is capable of questioning this government, yet there are pages and pages of criticism of the current government on here.
Rovinghawk said:
Integroo said:
Can you imagine what Labour would do to this Tory party with an effective moderate in charge.
I'm struggling to imagine Labour with an effective individual in charge, moderate or otherwise.Know you of such a person?
Henners said:
Yet you moan on about the current government on a thread about the leader of the opposition?...
To be fair, my comment was on the moaning about the leader of the opposition when such abject failures exist elsewhere, manifested by those actually in power. My suggestion was such energy may be more profitably spent aimed in the direction of said failings rather than at a sphynx like bagpuss with little power or chance of same. My thoughts are clearly misdirected, or I am wrong and equal and more energy is being spent profitably.
And on that note, the energy I used to write this post could have better been used elsewhere, hypocrite that I am. A, a brief moment of existential awareness, nothing like it
Remaining appeal of corbyn? For me corbyn is still the most genuine of a disingenuous lot, although his principled protester act is growing old. He reminds me of an emaciated Brando impersonator who when questioned, what are you protesting about growls 'whaadya got?'Personally, I wish he would nail his colours to the flagpole. He is in a personally luxurious position of being a eurosceptic who has always prized the democratic process above all. Cake/eat it. But, there lie monsters. It would be disastrous for his party to advocate either side with any vehemence as one alienates half the country and commensurately more of a given potentiality of electorate. Damned if you do damned if you don't. I believe a corbyn led government, regardless of Brexit outcome, is our countrys only chance for a workable modern socialist system, bringing us in line with other European countries who have successfully managed their own infrastructures for years, Germany, France and most of the Scandinavian countries being prime example. What our electorate have been repeatedly told are hard left Marxist policies would have been considered centrist sensibility in the seventies and are considered as a social and cultural necessity throughout Europe. Our media barons continually paint everything with the red brush or employ the 'look, a squirrel' diversionary tactic every day maybe May fks something else up...go check ongoing windrush status for examples of things the populace know fk all about, or Grenfell.
Negatives...the old bd needs to show the balls he clearly demonstrates within his party to the general public. He comes over well on TV, people are generally surprised. He needs to act quicker on things like the manufactured, to a point, antisemitism nonsense and he needs to appear more on MSN rather than in his allotment. I do not wish for a blairist compromise/sell out and perhaps have become an ideologue but I would rather not have power than have power under false pretenses.
I'm afraid my nihilistic pragmatic nature still kicks in with this st. People are scared of change. If they are on their knees but can't smell their own st, Hey, things could be worse. What will be will be, nothing we can do about it. Brexit will be (must be?) enacted. It's what happens next and how that matters. I hope many people will become acquainted with the scent of their own fecal matter and hey, that ain't cool, so a change will be sought. Thesis, synthesis, antithesis in a pleasingly Hegelian, hell even Marxist manner. Action/reaction. Sadly, there has been little of either as of late
ks something else up...go check ongoing windrush status for examples of things the populace know fk all about, or Grenfell.Negatives...the old b
d needs to show the balls he clearly demonstrates within his party to the general public. He comes over well on TV, people are generally surprised. He needs to act quicker on things like the manufactured, to a point, antisemitism nonsense and he needs to appear more on MSN rather than in his allotment. I do not wish for a blairist compromise/sell out and perhaps have become an ideologue but I would rather not have power than have power under false pretenses.I'm afraid my nihilistic pragmatic nature still kicks in with this s
t. People are scared of change. If they are on their knees but can't smell their own st, Hey, things could be worse. What will be will be, nothing we can do about it. Brexit will be (must be?) enacted. It's what happens next and how that matters. I hope many people will become acquainted with the scent of their own fecal matter and hey, that ain't cool, so a change will be sought. Thesis, synthesis, antithesis in a pleasingly Hegelian, hell even Marxist manner. Action/reaction. Sadly, there has been little of either as of lateJohn McDonnell calls Winston Churchill a 'villain'
Sir Nicholas Soames grandson of Churchill said:
I think my grandfather's reputation can withstand a publicity-seeking assault from a third-rate, Poundland Lenin.
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