Liam Fox and his "advisor"
Discussion
Sheets Tabuer said:
Put sky news on if you can, his bags are being taken out of the MOD.
confirmed he has resigned.
In some respects this is good news because it is better than having someone hang on for dear life the way Liebour scum did.confirmed he has resigned.
But on the other hand I'd have preferred him to be dismissed to show CMD actually would get rid of someone who was shown to hold an untenable position.
stripy7 said:
manic47 said:
Sheets Tabuer said:
Wonder if he'll leave by the back door.
That was below the belt.Are times changing?
He should have gone much earlier. It must have been obvious that this would run.
Derek Smith said:
Whilst it has been something of an elephant in the room, there has been little speculation about his sexuality in the press. There have been one or two terms used with indicate that the relationship has been close but nothing overt or indeed underhand.
Are times changing?
He should have gone much earlier. It must have been obvious that this would run.
In reverse order - for all sorts of reasons, none of them personal, I for one am glad the tide *has* turned on sexuality. It's not a material consideration in this case or indeed any other. I think the Grauniad took it as far as they dared this evening when they described Werrity as Fox's 'long -term travelling companion'...Are times changing?
He should have gone much earlier. It must have been obvious that this would run.
I don't care; no Cabinet member should be in anything like this position. Regardless of Party politics, Ministerial posts really should demand appropriate gravitas and respect for the office. Fox has demonstrably failed on several fronts. The end.
Funnily enough the highest esteem I have had for a Minister in recent years was when Ruth Kelly resigned, ostensibly for family reasons and vaguely hinting she felt she was not up to the post. Now that took balls few can actually muster!
It would have certainly made CMD appear a bit tougher if he had come out and sacked Fox this morning after the overnight revelations instead of Fox resigning (or being given the chance to) ...
But he wouldn't do that because was a right winger within the Tory party and if the other right wingers in the party had sensed Fox was being *treated unfairly* - ie sacked (from their view) they could create more problems for CMD.
So again he looked weak. Reactiong TO events rather than SHAPING them.
And if Letwin had gone as well, we could have tow go in one day - coo, the odds on that.
But he wouldn't do that because was a right winger within the Tory party and if the other right wingers in the party had sensed Fox was being *treated unfairly* - ie sacked (from their view) they could create more problems for CMD.
So again he looked weak. Reactiong TO events rather than SHAPING them.
And if Letwin had gone as well, we could have tow go in one day - coo, the odds on that.
unrepentant said:
A strong leader acts decisively. Say what you like about Bliar, he cut them quick when there was a sniff of scandal (he also bought them back later a la Mandy but at least he acted). Maggie also. Contrast Major who let the scandals go on until everyone was tainted and maximum damage was done. He even let that odious crook Neil Hamilton hang on to office for a year after he was implicated in cash for questions!
Fox should be instructed to resign to "clear his name". If he clears it he can come back.
That isn't strictly true. Fox should be instructed to resign to "clear his name". If he clears it he can come back.
The ones he wanted to keep he binned rapidly so as to kill the story and weaken public memory so he could bring them back ASAP. He also found them very lucrative roles during this period.
Others fought and lied and begged to stay in their jobs.
Even Robin Cook refused to move out from his grace and favour London home when demoted and had enough shot on Blair in order to be allowed to keep it.
They are all filth but if we look at DC he has reacted the same way in each event that has arisen so far so is showing consistency and also they are mostly being jogged on at the end of the process.
He has to be careful with Fox though as he I backed by the angry homosexuals of the party. Of which there are a few, so will be a thorn in DC's side.
I think it's been handled quite well as he clearly had to go but the last thing you want is an emotionally distressed man swinging handbags at you.
DS3R said:
nightflight said:
A bit of a shame really, he was actually a good bloke. There aren't many honourable people around these days.
So you're suggesting that Fox, who asked Hedge Fund managers to make payments to a company to allow "his mate" to afford luxury trips around the world, who met foreign leaders and had privileged access to information about forthcoming requirements and contracts and could report such news back to Hedge Fund managers free of restriction given he did not have security clearance or any other form of vetting, is an honourable bloke???Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff