Another Tunisian Attack - Sousse

[AJL308]

Axionknight said:

What about the decent ones?

Where are they though? This goes to the whole thrust of this thread; if there are so many tens of millions of 'decent' Muslims in the World then why aren't they protesting these acts and ostracising the terrorists?

[PoleDriver]

AJL308 said:

Axionknight said:

What about the decent ones?

Where are they though? This goes to the whole thrust of this thread; if there are so many tens of millions of 'decent' Muslims in the World then why aren't they protesting these acts and ostracising the terrorists?

If there were any 'decent' ones they would be doing something to stop this cancer from spreading!

[andymc]

Axionknight said:

Same goes for Christians then right? That's all the same melting pot too surely?

I don't think Christians are shooting holiday makers and beheading infidels at will

[Mojocvh]

Foppo said:

Why did so many people still go on holiday to Tunisia after the museum attack there and people got killed.

The U.K. Government should have warned people to be thinking twice about travelling to Tunisia.

Perhaps they wanted to have a nice relaxing holiday in the sun?

[Vaud]

andymc said:

I don't think Christians are shooting holiday makers and beheading infidels at will

Sabra and Shatila massacre in 1982?

Or plenty of Christians killed other Christians in NI; but quite right - no beheadings, they burned houses instead.

[deltaevo16]

Vaud said:

Sabra and Shatila massacre in 1982?

Or plenty of Christians killed other Christians in NI; but quite right - no beheadings, they burned houses instead.

Well that makes everything that IS do ok in your eyes, always the same responses tbh, well the Christians did it so it must be ok. What about the Nazi's shall we use the same argument to kill Jews?

Some seriously deluded people that continue to appease, hand wring and sit on the fence.

[Axionknight]

deltaevo16 said:

Vaud said:

Sabra and Shatila massacre in 1982?

Or plenty of Christians killed other Christians in NI; but quite right - no beheadings, they burned houses instead.

Well that makes everything that IS do ok in your eyes, always the same responses tbh, well the Christians did it so it must be ok. What about the Nazi's shall we use the same argument to kill Jews?

Some seriously deluded people that continue to appease, hand wring and sit on the fence.

Did he say that made it okay? He simply gave an example....... Wow, talk about quick to judge and point the finger..........

[4v6]

Mermaid said:

A small Muslim minority are giving all Muslims a bad name,

I disagree. How do we know its a small minority?

[pete a]

Axionknight said:

What about the decent ones?

Kurds, Turks and westernised Pakistanis have always been ok, other than that they seem to hate us a lot more than we dislike them.

Strangly Sikhs, Hindus and Chinese are wonderful people and don't cause any problems or tensions. does this make me selectively racist or do some groups of people not have any intention of living together in harmony.

[Axionknight]

4v6 said:

Mermaid said:

A small Muslim minority are giving all Muslims a bad name,

I disagree. How do we know its a small minority?

Do we know it is a majority? Quite a hard thing to gauge no? I can see the opinion polls now, as people take to the streets to canvass the population:

A: "S'cuse me Sir, are you a Muslim?"
B: "Yep"
A: "So, do you like western society, or are you all for a bit of the old jihadi, death to the west type action?"
B: "ALLAHU AKHBAR!(chap explodes)
A: "We'll chalk you up as a moderate, then"

[Nickbrapp]

fesuvious said:

andymc said:

Axionknight said:

Same goes for Christians then right? That's all the same melting pot too surely?

I don't think Christians are shooting holiday makers and beheading infidels at will

And their CEO (Jesus) never killed anyone, or called for beheadings.

But his dad did tell a Shepard to sacrafise his son

[pete a]

I would also add that some fking moron shot nine innocent people in a church last week seemingly based solely upon the colour of their skin, he is not representative of the white population in general and I am happy to state I'm disgusted by it and can see no cause for any justification.

[pete a]

This is good to see though and is the flip side of the coin.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3142087/Th...


Pity you don't see the same in Ilford or Bradford high streets.

[Asterix]

fesuvious said:

4v6 said:

Mermaid said:

A small Muslim minority are giving all Muslims a bad name,

I disagree. How do we know its a small minority?

Some polls for you. You're quite obviously barking up the wrong tree. There's barely anything here to support your views

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Opinion-Po...

That website is banned here in Dubai.

Let me guess why...

[AJL308]

Vaud said:

Sabra and Shatila massacre in 1982?

Or plenty of Christians killed other Christians in NI; but quite right - no beheadings, they burned houses instead.

Even more reasons to conclude that religion in any form is a bad idea.

However, we need to employ a tiny bit of pragmatism here; at present there is virtually zero chance of anyone being killed due to a violent, deviant sub-set of Christianity, or any other religion for that matter. That is not true of Islam

Edited by AJL308 on Sunday 28th June 14:14

[JensenA]

zygalski said:

How is it irrelevant? We in The West have historically supported Muslim terrorist nutters when it fits in with a perceived national interest. If you play with fire it shouldn't be too surprising that you often get burnt.

Tinker, tinker, tinker... BANG.
A very brief history of The West's relationship with radical Islam.

Zygalski your a left wing fruitcake who will say anything deflect any blame from Muslims because it upsets your deeply ingrained politically correct mentality. Numerous murders are being committed by Islamist fanatics in the name of Islam, the West is not condemning these attitudes because they are being perpetrated by Muslims, we are condemning these atrocities which 'happen' to be perpetrated by Muslims, the West is also condemning the killings of Muslims by IS. And all you can do is bring up ancient bits of History as some kind of justification. And your final comment "if you play with fire don't be surprised if you get burnt" is exactly the kind of comment that we come to expect from the left wing politically correct fanatics. If IS was a white Christian group killing Muslims, would you still be defending them? I think not.

[Axionknight]

AJL308 said:

Vaud said:

Sabra and Shatila massacre in 1982?

Or plenty of Christians killed other Christians in NI; but quite right - no beheadings, they burned houses instead.

Even more reasons to conclude that religion in any form is a bad idea.

However, we need to employ a tiny bit of pragmatism here; at present there is virtually zero chance of anyone being killed due to a violent, deviant sub-set of Christians, or any other religion for that matter. That is not true of Islam

So, how do you suggest we stop this from happening again? Or, more closer to home I guess, what do we do to stop it from happening again here?

[AJL308]

Axionknight said:

So, how do you suggest we stop this from happening again? Or, more closer to home I guess, what do we do to stop it from happening again here?

I've already said how earlier in the thread; stop immigration from Muslim lands and offer peaceful incentives for Muslims (and members of any other violent, intolerant death cult) to ps off to whatever part of the world they please or will have them.

Also, don't support them by travelling to Muslim countries unless absolutely necessary.

In short, let them get on with whatever they want but let them do it else where.

[Mermaid]

pete a said:

This is good to see though and is the flip side of the coin.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3142087/Th...
Pity you don't see the same in Ilford or Bradford high streets.

That is encouraging, their positive attitude is what the Islamist hard liners do not want to flourish. No full bin liners in sight too, or did I miss that.

If you want such a protest in Bradford, you have to close down a few Kebab shops or ban mini cabs.

[Axionknight]

AJL308 said:

Axionknight said:

So, how do you suggest we stop this from happening again? Or, more closer to home I guess, what do we do to stop it from happening again here?

I've already said how earlier in the thread; stop immigration from Muslim lands and offer peaceful incentives for Muslims (and members of any other violent, intolerant death cult) to ps off to whatever part of the world they please or will have them.

Also, don't support them by travelling to Muslim countries unless absolutely necessary.

In short, let them get on with whatever they want but let them do it else where.

How many of the near 2.8 million Muslims in the UK (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom) do you think are going to leave? Many have lives here just like the rest of us, so I can't see a mass exodus on the horizon.

Of course, those that remain will continue to have children and likely bring them up instilling the religion into them as they go, so your idea of a Muslim free utopia is never going to come about without outlawing the religion or forceful expulsion of anybody who identifies themselves as Muslim, regardless of where they were born.