The U.S.A. Mass Shootings Thread

[croyde]

Just made me contact an ex girlfriend that lives in that area.

Nice area, I always felt safe wandering around or driving.

Just that it's too easy to get hold of guns legally.

Sad news.

[Gary29]

croyde said:

Just made me contact an ex girlfriend that lives in that area.

Does she know any more about it than what is being currently reported?

[red_slr]

croyde said:

Just that it's too easy to get hold of guns legally.

Not in California its not.
Licence required incl written test, 10 day wait required, no magazines >10 rounds, any kind of "tactical" equipment banned, no private sales etc etc etc.

[Reciprocating mass]

Would it really make any difference when you just buy it in another state and drive back home with it

[croyde]

red_slr said:

Not in California its not.
Licence required incl written test, 10 day wait required, no magazines >10 rounds, any kind of "tactical" equipment banned, no private sales etc etc etc.

Still a lot easier than here

She's watching the news. Getting the same reports as here.

[arfursleep]

The politicians will trot out the usual 'thoughts and prayers' and nothing will happen.

Trump will say that if everyone in the bar was armed then they'd be okay and that he'd have stopped the shooter even though he was unarmed...

[red_slr]

croyde said:

red_slr said:

Not in California its not.
Licence required incl written test, 10 day wait required, no magazines >10 rounds, any kind of "tactical" equipment banned, no private sales etc etc etc.

Still a lot easier than here

How is it easier out of interest?

[bristolracer]

12 dead

[BoRED S2upid]

bristolracer said:

12 dead

Is the shooter one of them?

[red_slr]

One of the dead is a 29 year veteran of the Ventura Sheriff's Dept who was due to retire in a few months.

[Gary29]

BoRED S2upid said:

Is the shooter one of them?

Apparently yes.

[MartG]

I guess it's "thoughts & prayers" time again then ? When are they actually going to do something - like even recognise they have an issue ?

[s1962a]

What a sad loss of life

Since there is no 20 page thread on PH about it, I presume it's not Islamist terrorism related?

[designforlife]

Just up the road from where my wife grew up...she used to drink in the Borderline

[Europa1]

arfursleep said:

Trump will say that if everyone in the bar was armed then they'd be okay and that he'd have stopped the shooter even though he was unarmed...

Depressingly, my first thought was also that it wouldn't surprise me if the President's suggested solution will be to arm bartenders.

[Butter Face]

arfursleep said:

The politicians will trot out the usual 'thoughts and prayers' and nothing will happen.

Trump will say that if everyone in the bar was armed then they'd be okay and that he'd have stopped the shooter even though he was unarmed...

Absolutely this. I'd put a pound on him trotting out the line about people being armed.

[Russian Troll Bot]

Butter Face said:

arfursleep said:

The politicians will trot out the usual 'thoughts and prayers' and nothing will happen.

Trump will say that if everyone in the bar was armed then they'd be okay and that he'd have stopped the shooter even though he was unarmed...

Absolutely this. I'd put a pound on him trotting out the line about people being armed.

Few hours old now so might be incorrect, but here he is described as having shot the guard at the door first and being of "middle eastern" appearance


https://twitter.com/ABC7Jory/status/10604465354590...

[Noodle1982]

s1962a said:

What a sad loss of life

Since there is no 20 page thread on PH about it, I presume it's not Islamist terrorism related?

Don't count your chickens...

[Salmonofdoubt]

red_slr said:

croyde said:

red_slr said:

Not in California its not.
Licence required incl written test, 10 day wait required, no magazines >10 rounds, any kind of "tactical" equipment banned, no private sales etc etc etc.

Still a lot easier than here

How is it easier out of interest?

I believe it’s possible to drive from one US state to another. So if I lived in a state where it’s tricky to buy a gun but really want one I could drive to another state.

In the UK I would need to deal with dodgy characters or go through the vetting.

[acd80]

Very sad news but just seems to be an all too regular event. I was in Thousand Oaks a few weeks ago and have family living less than 3 miles from where it occurred.