Cost of living squeeze in 2022, 23 & 24 (Vol. 2)

[Oakey]

menousername said:

I noticed the heating the other day- was like being in the chilled isle everywhere.

They all seem to have leaky roofs too, buckets everywhere catching the drips.

However, my local Tesco had music on for the first time the other day. Perhaps to distract us from the cold

Ah, I see you shop at Blackpool Tesco too?

Our Morrisons seem to have a novel way of saving electricity, they'd turned off half the lighting when I was last in there.

[ashleyman]

Looking to add a camera to my home CCTV system. The last 2 I got were on ebay Reolink store at £58 each brand new back in May 2022. Just gone to look and the same cameras, same store are now £84.99. They seem to be having a 15% sale at the moment but they’re still £72. That’s a huge jump in price in under a year.

[Downward]

hotchy said:

Frimley111R said:

Just spoke to my nextdoor neighbour. They have a big house, 4-5 bedroom, quite new, £1m+ and two kids. Their energy bills are £900p/m!

If you can afford a new £1m+ house, then your jobs rather decent and 900 will be the least of the worries if their mortgage fix ends. That 900 could be pennies in comparison.

Yeah not really on the breadline are they ?

[okgo]

Spending 900 quid a month in a new house is hilarious.

I can only assume electric cars that are charged often otherwise it’s insane. I’ve an old house of similar size and it’s under half.

[Flooble]

okgo said:

Spending 900 quid a month in a new house is hilarious.

I can only assume electric cars that are charged often otherwise it’s insane. I’ve an old house of similar size and it’s under half.

That is actually a really good point. A couple of EVs that are used to hammer up and down the motorway to work could very easily be pulling down 150kWh a day between them. That would do interesting things to your electricity bill!

[Shnozz]

Mates of mine similar bill. 5 bed detached newish build in N Leeds. £900 ish a month. Fair bit of WFH, obligatory Tesla and a new born so house always warm. That’s supplemented by a fire they light during winter too.

[poo at Paul's]

Flooble said:

Water up 12% here.

Ahhh, but 30% of your bill is for green asset building for a better environment, remember….
All whilst lobbing shyte into the rivers when no one is looking.

[poo at Paul's]

Flooble said:

okgo said:

Spending 900 quid a month in a new house is hilarious.

I can only assume electric cars that are charged often otherwise it’s insane. I’ve an old house of similar size and it’s under half.

That is actually a really good point. A couple of EVs that are used to hammer up and down the motorway to work could very easily be pulling down 150kWh a day between them. That would do interesting things to your electricity bill!

But then you’d think they’d not be in during the day (driving the cars) so it’s still a good wack.

[poo at Paul's]

GroundEffect said:

What a fking retarded hill to die on.

[Flooble]

poo at Paul's said:

Flooble said:

okgo said:

Spending 900 quid a month in a new house is hilarious.

I can only assume electric cars that are charged often otherwise it’s insane. I’ve an old house of similar size and it’s under half.

That is actually a really good point. A couple of EVs that are used to hammer up and down the motorway to work could very easily be pulling down 150kWh a day between them. That would do interesting things to your electricity bill!

But then you’d think they’d not be in during the day (driving the cars) so it’s still a good wack.

150kWh for 20 days at 35p per kWh would come to £1050 just to "fuel" the cars. Some of those fat Audi 4x4 EVs can end up only doing a couple of miles per kWh, so it wouldn't even need to be particularly long commutes to need that much electricity.

[Bullett]

We have an Ipace. It's got a 90kWh battery we probably fully charge it once a week, about 80kWh @ 32p call it £26 a week. Officially 240 mile range but in reality closer to 220 pottering and 180-200 if you are doing high motorway speeds. 13ppm, still cheaper than running my Mini at around 21ppm.

That really cold month our combined bill hit just over £700. 5 bed detached 1970's house, 2 kids and I mostly work from home so some daytime heating. We have brand new double glazing and insulated walls. Heating has been on for just over an hour today (6am to about 9.30) and the temp is currently 16.8c at the thermostat.

Must really be spanking it to hit 900 but two electric cars will drive a lot of that. Or a swimming pool or hot tub.

[Tango13]

Flooble said:

Water up 12% here.

I suspect my neighbours water supply goes across my land without any records, their water might be going up by a bit more than 12% and mine coming down by a similar amount

[theboss]

Flooble said:

poo at Paul's said:

Flooble said:

okgo said:

Spending 900 quid a month in a new house is hilarious.

I can only assume electric cars that are charged often otherwise it’s insane. I’ve an old house of similar size and it’s under half.

That is actually a really good point. A couple of EVs that are used to hammer up and down the motorway to work could very easily be pulling down 150kWh a day between them. That would do interesting things to your electricity bill!

But then you’d think they’d not be in during the day (driving the cars) so it’s still a good wack.

150kWh for 20 days at 35p per kWh would come to £1050 just to "fuel" the cars. Some of those fat Audi 4x4 EVs can end up only doing a couple of miles per kWh, so it wouldn't even need to be particularly long commutes to need that much electricity.

I haven't seen the bill yet but I'm thinking December was about £1k in a 5 bedroom 10 year old house with a B on the EPC.

Cars form a part of the bill but they are charged exclusively off peak at 7.5p/unit

More than half of the bill will be gas because we're in all day and keep the house at ~21C by day with a minimum of ~17.5C at night.

It's not really that extravagant to sit in a normal room temperature indoors in the winter, is it.

[okgo]

17.5 overnight seems entirely mad. Unless you have small children all over the house.

[Leicester Loyal]

Yeah 21 degrees is pretty high, and 17.5 overnight is high. Last winter I kept it at 16.5 or 17 (the missus idea) and even that was too high for me. I leave it on 15.5 or 16 now, depending on how cold it is outside.

In the day it never ever goes above 20, and even then it's very rare, usually 19 or 19.5 if it's a bit below freezing.

[Earthdweller]

Bullett said:

We have an Ipace. It's got a 90kWh battery we probably fully charge it once a week, about 80kWh @ 32p call it £26 a week. Officially 240 mile range but in reality closer to 220 pottering and 180-200 if you are doing high motorway speeds. 13ppm, still cheaper than running my Mini at around 21ppm.

That really cold month our combined bill hit just over £700. 5 bed detached 1970's house, 2 kids and I mostly work from home so some daytime heating. We have brand new double glazing and insulated walls. Heating has been on for just over an hour today (6am to about 9.30) and the temp is currently 16.8c at the thermostat.

Must really be spanking it to hit 900 but two electric cars will drive a lot of that. Or a swimming pool or hot tub.

I’d like to trust your maths … but 6am to 9.30 is 3.5 hours

[theboss]

When I said 17.5, that's about the most the cooler rooms will drop to until it comes back on generally in the morning, so I'm not really maintaining that. Come to think of it I could set it to 5C and it wouldn't make any difference.

[Bullett]

Earthdweller said:

I’d like to trust your maths … but 6am to 9.30 is 3.5 hours

A valid point. I have Hive, the window is 6 - 9.30, it was actually heating for just over an hour.
I have a graph and everything.

[Downward]

hotchy said:

Frimley111R said:

Just spoke to my nextdoor neighbour. They have a big house, 4-5 bedroom, quite new, £1m+ and two kids. Their energy bills are £900p/m!

If you can afford a new £1m+ house, then your jobs rather decent and 900 will be the least of the worries if their mortgage fix ends. That 900 could be pennies in comparison.

Yeah not really on the breadline are they ?

[JagLover]

To little surprise interest rates now up to 4%

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-64457377